[ibis-editorial] Re: [EXT] Missing BIRD in the list of added BIRD

  • From: "Muranyi, Arpad" <Arpad_Muranyi@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "ibis-editorial@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ibis-editorial@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:31:25 +0000

Walter,

I stumbled on this issue for the same reason…

While I agree that the title is not very descriptive, I don’t think we ever 
changed the
title of a BIRD without changing its number.  I think we could submit another 
BIRD
with the same exact content using a new title if necessary, and say that is 
supersedes
BIRD209 and BIRD204.

To my defense, if I remember correctly, when I first wrote the BIRD, I only had 
the small
text change in it to make that clock output required.  Then, as we discussed 
it, I was asked
to copy the entire content of BIRD204 into this new BIRD209, and point out that 
small
change.  The reason for doing it this way was so that we don’t write a BIRD on 
a BIRD…

But by then BIRD209 had a title, and at that time none of us thought that the 
title was
so meaningless…

Thanks,

Arpad
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From: Walter Katz <wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx>
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To: Muranyi, Arpad <Arpad_Muranyi@xxxxxxxxxx>; rrwolff@xxxxxxxxxx; 
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Subject: RE: [ibis-editorial] Re: [EXT] Missing BIRD in the list of added BIRD

All,

It definitely needs a better title. I have been asked by some customers “What 
is going to be in Version 7.1?”. I am sending them the list with BIRD 209  
modified as:

BIRD209     DQ_DQS GetWave Flow for Clock Forwarding 
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 (and additional AMI model requirements)

Walter

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Subject: [ibis-editorial] Re: [EXT] Missing BIRD in the list of added BIRD

Hmmm,  I wonder who wrote BIRD209…  😊

I don’t mind a different title, but don’t we usually indicate “superseded by 
xyz” in the BIRDs
webpage in the “Date Accepted” column?  Or are we only doing that after the 
spec in which
they appear is released?

Thanks,

Arpad
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Subject: [ibis-editorial] Re: [EXT] Missing BIRD in the list of added BIRD

Hi Arpad,

BIRD204 was superseded by BIRD209.  Maybe we should have left the title the 
same.

Randy

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Hello Everyone,



I discovered a minor omission in the list of BIRDs added to v7.1 on pg. 15

(without markup):



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BIRD204 DQ_DQS GetWave Flow for Clock Forwarding 
Modeling<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibis.org%2Fbirds%2Fbird204.docx&data=04%7C01%7Crrwolff%40micron.com%7Ccf6135c24bf640ca2d1408d97d4f0754%7Cf38a5ecd28134862b11bac1d563c806f%7C0%7C0%7C637678601089329302%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=nCk7jrDLVYex74oTvFgtuw13CcvcVuaF9PlozT5MbiA%3D&reserved=0>
 is not shown here,

yet the Reserved Parameter “Rx_Use_Clock_Input” is included (from this BIRD) in 
the document…

I think we need to add this BIRD to the list.



Thanks,



Arpad

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