Ok, I got a user guide for the starship template map pack. Hopefully it will be useful. I put it into the map pack, cause the map pack doesn't take long to download. I got rid of the shakedown cruise map, since a lot of it was missing for some reason and it was unplayable. I am not sure what happened to those missing pieces and intro, but I am chalking it up to gremlins, grin. The other maps are still there, as is. I would like to eventually move them over to either the current map pack for starship battles, or the new borg one I will work on after starcraft. I guess I will cross that bridge when I get to it. al "The truth will make you free" Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33AD