For those that are curious, here is a link I found that lists a few viruses for Linux: http://www.viruslist.com/eng/viruslistfind.asp?findWhere=011&findTxt=linux It's really kind of interesting to read through. Especially the cross-platform Linux/Windoze virus. Although it's only a proof of concept virus, it opens up the door to a lot of possibilities. And just to set the record straight on a few things: I don't personally worry about getting infected with a virus on a Linux or Unix machine. Why? I don't have any of my e-mail programs configured to auto execute programs based on e-mail content. Kmail is even configured so it doesn't display http e-mail by default. I also don't run programs sent to me from unknown sources, and I only log in as root when absolutely necessary. I also believe that it is more difficult to write a virus that will cause wide-spread infection among *nix users. Why? There is enough variation in the various *nixes that it makes it more difficult to write a virus that can attack all, or even most of them. Even within just the Linux camp, there are enough variations in the various distros that it would require more time and effort on the part of a virus writer to create a virus the spreads effectively. One example of this is the OpenSSL security hole found last year. The early exploits would work in some of the *nix OSes, and not others. If it worked on Linux, it may not work on *BSD and vice versa. And, *nix systems tend to run on more architectures than windows. So a virus/worm that may work on Linux/i386 may not work on Linux/SPARC. However, a virus/worm writer who is seeking recognition/glory will probably write their virus for Linux/i386 to get the most bang for the buck. Also, as Patrick and others have pointed out, end user applications on *nix based OSes typically have a more secure default setup than their windoze counterparts (or they don't even include the potentially dangerous "features" all together). Do I run a virus scanner at home? No, not yet. Eventually I will. Why? More for curiosity than anything. I like to see how many viruses are actually sent to me, and although some e-mails obviously contain a virus, not all of them are so easy to spot. I'd also like to keep some of them around for future testing (personal and work related). Although I'm not worried about my *nix machines becoming infected, I will eventually have a windoze box or 2 in my house for various reasons (i.e. gaming, kids programs, etc.) and they do need to be protected with AV software. I just don't believe that *nix will NEVER have a virus (because as the link above shows, there are already a few out there). -- Steve Bremer RHCE,CCNA -- Real Men don't make backups. They upload it via ftp and let the world mirror it. -- Linus Torvalds -- GnuPG Key fingerprint = 7F06 4D73 7963 BE96 5189 953A E285 CB2C BA03 2746 Available on key servers. P.S. If anyone is interested in a copy of the Sobig.F virus, I've got about 4500 of them in quarantine at work ;-) ---- Husker Linux Users Group mailing list To unsubscribe, send a message to huskerlug-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of UNSUBSCRIBE