The Perazzis looked pretty nice at SHOT.
On 3/7/2019 8:00 PM, Brian Laska wrote:
Thanks Peter and Erich! This is the right amount of feedback I was
looking for. I have my 45th b’day coming up and want to spend my money
wisely. I have no problem paying for functional quality, not sure I
care enough about finish (I mean, I have a lot of Glocks)
On Mar 7, 2019, at 7:47 PM, Peter Dougenik <peterdougenik@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:peterdougenik@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
What sets the $1k gun apart from the $2-3k? some is fit and finish,
some is practical features. For example the 725 line has mechanical
triggers so if the first barrel doesn't fire you can pull the trigger
again to fire the second barrel. Inertia trigger guns won't do
that. The higher $$ gun will probably have more decoration on the
receiver and the wood (hehehe) but it's still going to be machine
produced. The engraving on the SP1 is done by machine but still
looks nice while the 725 has a rather boring laser engraved
pattern on it. I would expect a $2-3k gun to stay tight longer but
honestly we're talking about tens of thousands of shells and none of
us are going to get there so it's not as big a factor.
Erich hit the nail on the head; the best gun is the one that fits.
The caveat of course is it can't be an unreliable piece of shit. I
shot my first 2-3 seasons with a well used Beretta Silver Pigeon I
and got to the point where I could break in the low 20s
consistently. I spent a lot of time getting ready after stepping
onto the pad though, a lot of shifting around to get things just
right. I shouldered up a Browning CX during one of our Addieville
outings and it just popped into the right spot. I put it down at low
ready and mounted it again and again it was in just the right spot.
After shouldering multiple Beretta and Browning guns I can say that
Brownings fit me better. I sold the SP1 to Mike K (one of Erich's
son's MIT buddies) and it fit him perfectly. When he shouldered my
Browning it didn't fit worth crap. I also need a good deal of "cast
off" in my stocks to bring the barrel to the correct point (even on
the Browning) so I went with an adjustable stock that's currently
shifted strong 1/4" to the right. Now I step onto the pad, put
shells in, lift the gun and call for the bird. My rhythm is faster
because the gun fits right and I'm breaking low to mid 20s
consistently with the occasional straight.
Stew and Steve shoot SP1, Sean just got the Browning Cynergy CX, I
have a 725 Sporting (and the new used gun I picked up last night).
Shoot a couple stations or whole round with each of those platforms
to see what feels best. Most of the other brands will fall into
those two camps for fit.
As for one to do it all - the sporting models, 30" barrels might be a
good compromise but I can't say for hunting cause I only hunt orange
disks. I've shot a little under 5000 shells through the 725 over the
past 2 years and it's done great in skeet, sporting clays, 5 stand,
and trap.
I don't have experience with the CZ but stay away from the turkish
imports if you are going to do a lot of shooting. the ones that
shoot well shoot well and the ones that don't are horrible....seems
to be a real either or and nothing in between. There's probably a
bunch of different stuff out there but in the world of OU guns
Browning and Beretta own the $1-3k range and both brands will get the
job done for tens of thousands of shells. That gun Sean picked up
seems to be the winner at the price point...it's not going to win any
beauty contests but it looks well built and it's destroying clays.
now if you have a little more $$ to spend we can talk about the K
guns or the Guerinis ;-). Probably don't want to be wandering around
the woods with those though
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 7:25 PM Erich Thalheimer <thalheimer@xxxxxxx
<mailto:thalheimer@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Brian,
I did quite a lot of research on this subject a couple years ago
when I was buying one for myself. Interesting that you use the
CZ as an example. I nearly bought that one. There are lots and
lots of O/U shotguns in the $1k to $2k range that will serve you
for all sporting needs and hunting.
All the shotgun guys will correctly tell you, it all comes down
to what gun fits you best. I ultimately narrowed my search down
to the Beretta Silver Pigeon vs. the Browning Citori White
Lightning - both costing around $2k. I went with the Browning
after getting a chance to lift both of them to my shoulder. The
Browning, which has a higher action profile, pointed much better
for me. The Beretta with its lower profile was difficult for my
eye to find. Beretta lovers will tell you they choose theirs for
the same reason - personal fit and preference. I also liked the
idea of the all steel receiver better with the Browning than the
aluminum one on the Berettas.
Will you be at Saturday's indoor match? I'll be there, we can
share notes.
Erich Thalheimer
INCE Board Certified Acoustical Engineer
27 Peterson Road, Natick, MA 01760
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Subject: [hsa] Looking for advice on a versatile O/U shotgun
I�m not what you would call a shotgun guy (yet), but I�ve shot
skeet a little bit this year (literally starting Jan 1), and I
really enjoy it - been getting better and better every round -
with a lot of help from many of the folks here.
Question One: That said, I am looking for an over/under shotgun
that is a bit versatile, meaning I�d like to use it for
skeet/trap/clays as well as bird hunting. Am I asking too much
for one gun?
Question Two: There are too many options out there, so I suppose
my question comes to cost vs quality� As a newbie to the sport &
hunting, what sets a $1k CZ O/U apart from a $2-3k Browning?
All advice is appreciated.
Brian
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