Big thumbs up then!
Cheers
Tony Bell
On 21 Sep 2019, at 10:32, hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Funny you should ask.... that recording was produced by the latest Playout
build. I'm putting the finishing touches in for the new functionality so will
definitely be available for the next broadcast.
On 20 September 2019 20:38:35 BST, Tony Bell <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
** Hastings Rock Radio **
Wow,
What a difference...... superb...... level controls should be much easier,
is it simple to slot that into the playout stream ?
Tony
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From: hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of
jon bird
Sent: 18 September 2019 21:46
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Hastings Rock] Re: loudness...
** Hastings Rock Radio **
righty then, mostly for Nick I guess but anyone else is more than welcome to
take a listen. I've segued all those tracks together, alternating between
the older stuff and more recent. Here's how it normally would sound:
https://www.oasw.co.uk/mpublic/hrock-bits/pre-loudness-test.mp3
and with loudness normalization applied:
https://www.oasw.co.uk/mpublic/hrock-bits/loudness-test.mp3
let us know what you think.
In message <A8B8A14B08C245C7A20F0E73D5DCC881@NickPC>, Nick Apps
<nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
ahh ok.,, heres some then . ..
Twisted Sister - I Am (I'm Me)
R.E.M. - Man On The Moon
Elvis Presley - All Shook Up
Amen Corner - Hello Suzie
Alice In Chains – Rooster
Ace - How Long
Aerosmith - Love In An Elevator
From: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 6:37 PM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Hastings Rock] Re: loudness...
On 12 September 2019 18:36:14 BST, jon bird
<news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No I don't need the mp3 files I'll have them here. However that's
not quite right what you want is a mixture of tracks of different
loudness (probably jumping between decades). Idea is say when you
play a track from 2019 it "sounds " about as loud as one from 1976.
On 12 September 2019 15:22:49 BST, Nick Apps
<nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
here you are Jon 6 that are loud in audio level. (assume you
dont need the mp3 of them but i can send if you do).
30 Seconds to Mars - The Kill
bad_religion_age_of_unreason
Blackberry Smoke - Let Me Help You (Find the Door)
Marilyn Manson - Disposable Teens
Steel Panther-death to all
tank_uk_he_fell_in_love_with_a_stormtrooper_re_recorded
the_brink_are_you_with_me
From: jon bird
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 8:01 PM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Hastings Rock] Re: loudness...
** Hastings Rock Radio **
In message <40998A7678F04512A77B80F94994B5C4@NickPC>, Nick Apps
<nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
i say Jon , this is great just what ive been looking for foryears .
hoping it does jingles and advert too.Really? You should've said, it's been on my todo list for 8
years, it's
just never gone up the priority list.
I would think jingles/ads probably aren't so much of an issue
since we
are in control of their content although I don't see any reason
why we
couldn't include the functionality for them. Remember, this is
most
likely only going to affect modern, highly compressed audio.
yes jon i will give you 6 of the best in due course .volume
Nick.
From: jon bird
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 9:46 PM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Hastings Rock] loudness...
** Hastings Rock Radio **
At the last meeting the question arose regarding the varying
levels of music and whether we could do anything about it. Imentioned
that this was something I'd looked at a while back because thereare
various mechanisms out there to try and address this thing butat the
time didn't reach any conclusions.things
I've gone around this again (sat in the garden, obviously!) and
have moved on somewhat since then. Basically back in 2014, theEuropean
Broadcasting Union released a standard called R128 whichattempted to
address this and whilst originally targetted at the TV industryand
since been adopted by a significant proportion of the mediaindustry
(Apple iTunes, YouTube and Spotify to name a few). To save megoing
around what it actually does, there is a good overview here:of a
http://bit.ly/2NzJPKq
In a nutshell, it works by amplifying or attenuating the audio
given track to a fixed level based on it's average "loudness"level.
a case
There is software out there which computes this, then it's just
of applying the gain factor during playback, I'm confident thatPlayout
can be enhanced to do this.found
I did (very limited) set of tests earlier, in general what I've
isolder
that it sort of works in reverse from what you might expect. For
music (the example I used was from mid 80's), it doesn't do muchto the
level - in my example it attenuated it by -0.1db so isn'tchanging the
levels at all really however for modern, highly compressed stuffit's
applying an attenuation in the order of -10db. So the net effectis
thatreducing
you aren't increasing the levels of the older stuff, you are
the levels of the new stuff.work out
This is probably a bit advantageous to us because you have to
the numbers up front, we can focus on just the new stuff & leavethe
older stuff for now because in most cases it won't make muchthink.
difference.
I think we need to do some trials initially and see what people
Nick - you are probably best placed to point me at say half adozen
tracks which span our music selection, I can then run theprocessing on
them and post up a "before" and "after" recording for everyoneto have
a
listen to.
j.
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