I was stationed at Al Dhafra, UAE, back in 1998 and I remember one KC-10 pilot bragging that he beat an F-14 Tomcat in a climb to 30,000 ft. He told a whole story about it, including the surprised reaction of the Navy pilots. I didn't believe him at the time, but after seeing this I guess it's possible he wasn't exaggerating, assuming the KC-10 was empty and the Tomcat was topped off. ________________________________ From: hhsc1-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:hhsc1-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Ogden Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 5:27 PM To: hhsc1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: I would not have thought this could be done http://www.flixxy.com/kc-10a-airshow-takeoff.htm light wing loading lots of power