Hello Alexander, I use Virtual server from server4you. Low Cost. Enough
Webspace. You csn use Ubuntu. Take a look.Greatings lorglas (lorenz)Von meinem
Samsung Gerät gesendet.
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Von: Alexander von Gluck IV <kallisti5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Datum: 06.11.18 14:58 (GMT+01:00)
An: haiku@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, haiku-sysadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [haiku] Re: [haiku-development] Re: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT]
Infrastructure Upgrades + Networking tweaks
November 6, 2018 5:18 AM, "Liam Proven" <lproven@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:> On Tue, 6
Nov 2018 at 05:16, Alexander von Gluck IV> <kallisti5@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:> >> I
really want to find a hard lesson in all of this and figure out a more reliable
strategy going>> forward.> > I do not wish to start an OS advocacy war, but
even speaking as a> former Red Hat employee (and current SUSE one), Fedora is
*not* a> suitable distribution for servers.> > When you said half a dozen
messages ago "going to upgrade F28 to F29,> only expecting ~8 min downtime", I
was incredulous.> > Fedora is a technology testbed distro. It is bleeding-edge
by design;> it has no stable versions; and it regularly replaces or rewrites
its> packaging tools.> > If you are wedded to the Red Hat tooling, then CentOS
would be a much> better choice.> > If not, I personally would recommend either
Ubuntu LTS releases or> Debian. In fact, given my personal experiences with
systemd on> desktops and laptops, I'd suggest Devuan, which eliminates systemd.
My> Haiku box dual-boots with Devuan (and Oberon and PC DOS 7.1) and I am> very
impressed with Devuan so far. This week I upgraded Devuan 1 to> Devuan 2 and
switched desktop environments from LXDE to XFCE, and it> was completely
painless and nothing went wrong at any stage. I now> have a newer OS, a tiny
bit more disk space, and everything works> exactly as it did.> > I know people
use Fedora for servers, but really, it should be an> evaluation tool, not a
production one. The purpose of Fedora is for> evaluating new Linux technology,
both for Red Hat and for its users,> and that is basically all. Anything else
is marketing (i.e. lies).> > If you actually want something to work with no
surprises, use a distro> where stability is the focus.Not 100% helpful. I
originally deployed with CentOS 7, however Hetzner'sautomatic provisioning
system auto-deploys a disk with: 50% root mdadm (1TiB) 50% home mdadm
(1TiB)Me trying to clean that up to something sane is what got us in this
messagain around a year ago.Hetzner doesn't offer Ubuntu / Debian / etc. No
options for "bring yourown ISO's" My hands are pretty tied by the options i'm
given :-)We're running at a reduced state at the moment. I'm working to get
thedata off of maui to the old baron server and reinstall maui for the short
term.Long term I want to move to VM's hosted by someone like Scaleway. We
don'tneed multiple-terrabytes of storage anymore since a lot of our builds and
otherlarge files have been transitioned to Wasabi s3 storage.We could put all
of our persistent data into a volume which could then bedetached and reattached
to a new VM during upgrades.. if something goeswrong we're not tightly bound to
a single failed physical machine. -- Alex
