As for the dock, I find it quite useful. Open programs that have been minimized are on the right, if they are running there's a little dot beneath them. If I don't want the program on my dock, I drag it off... if I want it back on then I drag it back on... AND I can order them the way I want. Would be nice to have a snake menu for the file structure (I miss that). I still hate that when you close the last window it doesn't exit the program by default (wouldn't take much to do that). Currently running on my dock: Finder (duh) Dashboard (closed) Firefox (open) Pages (open) Numbers (open) Keynote (open, but no documents open) Calendar (closed) iTunes (open, and playing "The Immigrant Song" by Led Zepplin) TextEdit (closed) Paintbrush (open) Windows Minimized: The Ur Quan Masters Guide iTunes Firefox Download Window Bills for May Presentation for May 13th It's actually quite useful... got rid of those freaking stacks day one... totally useless I've drank of the cool aid, and it's better than it was five years ago... --alphaseinor On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Thiago Cesar <thjayo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I agree with DarkWyrm. Plus, designing an easy to use, polished interface to > an already existing technology is easier for the newbies (like me) than > creating complex applications. > I might take a look at it, once I get my mac VMWare license. > > > On 5/12/08 10:13 AM, "DarkWyrm" <darkwyrm@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> I'm of the opinion that we should do things the Right Way instead of blindly >> copying features from other OSes. Some of the items in the list are useful >> features that we really should have, like #18. There is even an RFC on it >> and I have some basic code for the whole thing, too. A lot of these features >> already exist in some form or another -- as mmu_man pointed out -- and just >> need some polish added in, like Time Machine. >> >> --DarkWyrm >> >> > > > >