For those who aren't on the general haiku mailing list, here's a summary of a thread started there: >>> From me: Hello, here is an offer of help. Although I'm a programmer, I already program for eight hours a day as my job so frankly the last thing I want to do in my scant leisure time is more programming. However, it occurs to me, looking at the bug tracker, that of the almost 3000 open bugs, half have not been updated for 21 months and I could help to pull that number down by sifting through them. In most cases, it needs a programmer's knowledge to do that, even though it's not actually programming. Some, like https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8756 would be very quick to fix if only the information were conveyed to the right person, while others like https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8777 are probably invalid now (no disrespect to the reporter at the time). Another task is proofreading documentation but I think there are already people doing that. So would my intervention in going through the bug list be welcome ? If say 500 to 1000 bugs could be closed, that would make the list less daunting. >>> To which Humdinger replied: I'd say the number of 500 to 1000 easily closable non-coding related tickets is a bit optimistic. But your work would be very much appreciated in any case! >>> My reply to Humdinger: I'd like to know I had a mandate of some sort, even just to the extent that the main characters, Axel, Ingo, Humdinger etc. approved what I was doing, rather than the usual open source prima donna nonsense of me turning up and deciding what I'll contribute in the absence of any real need. Otherwise it's like arriving at someone elses party and saying here's how things are going to be run from now on. A bit rude to say the least, as I'll be contacting people and asking for more information, deciding that bugs will be closed etc. That's a significant responsibility. Some of the tickets may very well be code-related. I'd say any non-specific it-just-crashes older than say 12 months ought to be closed unless it can be reproduced again now. In fact, *any* that doesn't provide a means to reproduce; sorry guys but what can we do with that ? >>> And Humdinger again: Who knows, maybe you'll find some you can't resist the itch to come up with a patch for. More eyes are always good, more hands are better. :) >>> My reply to Humdinger: Maybe so but I won't be able actually to use Haiku myself until https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/9932 is solved except maybe on a VM just for testing. >>> Humdinger: The closing of tickets is reserved to people with commit access (I think). Insofar, you're free (and encouraged) to go through the tickets, add comments with requests for more information or, when you decided that a ticket doesn't provide clues to its solution, request its closure. All committers are subscribed to Trac and should see your comments and have time to react to them. I suggest to add a keyword to a closable ticket, so we're able to quickly list them all. Maybe simply "purge"? I'd volunteer to go through your list of tickets every other week and close where there was no veto from anybody. > Some of the tickets may very well be code-related. I'd say any > non-specific it-just-crashes older than say 12 months ought to be > closed unless it can be reproduced again now. In fact, *any* that > doesn't provide a means to reproduce; sorry guys but what can we do > with that ? Our experienced coders will have to answer that. While I agree that tickets that only say "it-just-crashed" should be save to be purged. OTOH, when backtraces are attached, I'm not sure those can't help track down the bug... I just realize that this thread should've been started on the haiku-dev list. If you don't get replies from more competent people here, you may want to post a summary there. So to summarise: is my offer of help, in cutting down the list of outstanding bugs, welcome ? Michael.