[haiku-development] Re: Fwd: [haiku-bugs] Re: [Haiku] #9636: Error opening terminal: xterm-256color
- From: Christoph Thompson <cjsthompson@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:26:32 +0200
Hi,
I can confirm that there's no package on Linux that still uses libtermcap.
Everything uses ncurses nowadays.
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Siarzhuk Zharski <zharik@xxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I repost it here, just to explain about reasons of my decision to wide
> audience.
>
> #9636: Error opening terminal: xterm-256color
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> Reporter: humdinger | Owner: siarzhuk
> Type: bug | Status: closed
> Priority: normal | Milestone: R1
> Component: Applications/Terminal | Version: R1/Development
> Resolution: no change required | Keywords: xterm, nano
> Blocked By: | Blocking:
> Has a Patch: 0 | Platform: All
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> Ticket URL:
> <http://dev.haiku-os.org/**ticket/9636#comment:4<http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/9636#comment:4>
> >
>
> Comment (by siarzhuk):
>
> Replying to [comment:3 bonefish]:
> > TBH, I don't understand why we're setting `TERM` to "xterm-256color".
>
> Because "xterm" has Co (color count) set to 8. So to let the newest
> versions of console apps (text editors for example) profit from our 256
> colors support out of the box - I have switched to xterm-256color and
> fixed the Terminal BCE processing.
>
> > Back in the day when I changed it from "beterm" or what it originally
> was to "xterm" I did that exactly to avoid those compatibility issues.
>
> Yes, from the same reason I have rejected any patches that have proposed
> to introduce the "haiku" terminal entry.
>
> > The whole termcap system is broken by design
>
> Let me to not agree here - it is just outdated nowadays. libtermcap that
> we are using is looking like abandoned at the moment. But you are right
> that termcap format is restricted.
>
> > and IMO we should just go the path of the least resistance and set
> `TERM` to "xterm".
>
> I suspect that console applications do not disappear for the nearest
> decade so we have to take care about them anyway. IMO, the only reasonable
> way to keep this sub-system up to date - is switching from termcap to
> terminfo that is more flexible and maintained as part of ncurses package.
> More ideas and arguments are here:
> //www.freelists.org/post/**haiku-<//www.freelists.org/post/haiku->
> development/What-to-do-with-**termcap
>
> > To my knowledge that's what pretty much every OS and distribution that
> matters does as well.
>
> Corresponding to Thomas E. Dickey: http://invisible-
>
> island.net/ncurses/ncurses.**faq.html<http://island.net/ncurses/ncurses.faq.html>
>
> {{{
> "Additionally, Mac OS X 10.7 is reported to use xterm-256color as a
> default $TERM value."
> }}}
>
> So looks like I'm not alone who think this way.
>
> --
> Kind Regards,
> S.Zharski
>
>
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