[guispeak] Re: Structured and streamlined info about upcoming CSUN conference

  • From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 15:22:10 -0500

Mike,
A difference of opinion about "back to top" links -- I generally find them to be unnecessary, extraneous links and text. Press Control+Home to return to the top of a page.
Perhaps they help others, but such embedded navigation links create extra text that screen reader users have to wade through while trying to focus on content. An other example of disruptive text occurs when web developers go overboard in embedding tips for screen reader users that could be explained more efficiently in one dedicated place. For example, I found that almost every page on the CSUN site contains this text near the top:
"The following page is a two column layout with a header that contains a quicklinks jump menu and the search CSUN function. Page sections are identified with headers. The footer contains update, contact and emergency information." 

When one encounters that on page after page, it gets old real quick!

Best,
Jamal

On 2/5/2011 2:39 PM, Mike Paciello wrote:

Jamal:

Great to hear it. But don't thank me, thank Christian. It's cleaner, but it
could be optimized even better if you proper paragraphs and back to top
links.

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Jamal Mazrui
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 1:59 PM
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'programmingblind'; 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics';
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Subject: [guispeak] Re: Structured and streamlined info about upcoming CSUN
conference

Thanks, Mike!  I have now copied that revised version to the same
location on my site, available at

http://EmpowermentZone.com/CSUN2011.htm

Jamal

On 2/5/2011 1:32 PM, Mike Paciello wrote:

Hi Jamal -

Sorry for the slow reply. Meetings this morning. Here's a cleaned version
that was put together by Christian Heilmann earlier this morning:

http://isithackday.com/csun.html


- Mike

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Jamal Mazrui
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 8:40 AM
To: guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Mike Paciello; 'Uaccess-L'; w3c-wai-ig@xxxxxx; 'Program-l';
'programmingblind'; 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
Subject: [guispeak] Re: Structured and streamlined info about upcoming

CSUN

conference

Thanks for letting me know, Mike.  I'm definately not an HTML pro, so
welcome assistance in refining the format.  The goal was simple HTML in
this case, not stylistic purity.  It renders well with a screen reader,
but if there are ways of making it better for more users, then by all
means ....

I'll reflect on possible improvements.  In the meantime, if anyone wants
to take a crack at this and send a new  version to me, I'll consider
posting that instead.  Of course, since it is open content, anyone may
also feel free to post a revised version on another server.

Cheers,
Jamal


On 2/5/2011 8:26 AM, Mike Paciello wrote:

Jamal -

Thanks for putting this out there. As you note below, this is an attempt

to

create a clean, single page version of the schedule. However, immediate
responses I received from Twitter indicate that HTML is not well formed,
structured -- linebreaks instead of paragraphs, empty paragraphs. Can you
improve?

Thanks,

Mike


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Jamal Mazrui
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 8:05 AM
To: 'Uaccess-L'; w3c-wai-ig@xxxxxx; guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Program-l;
programmingblind; Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
Subject: [guispeak] Structured and streamlined info about upcoming CSUN
conference

Now available at
http://EmpowermentZone.com/CSUN2011.htm

This attempts to be a comprehensive compilation of information about the
upcoming International Technology&    Persons with Disabilities Conference
(March in San Diego), available on a single, structured web page.  All
information was gathered from the official CSUN conference site
http://CSUNConference.org

A table of contents at the top of the page links to about 400 subsequent
topics that each begin with a heading for easy navigation with assistive
technology.  Extraneous information has been removed, including site
navigation links and redundant, boiler plate text.  This helps readers
concentrate on significant, unique content.

A structured text version of the same document -- from which the HTML
was generated -- is available at the same web address except for a .txt
extension, i.e.,
http://EmpowermentZone.com/CSUN2011.txt

These generic formats can be used on almost any portable device.

Jamal
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