Hi; Jamie; I think I know where Kevin is coming from. I've never hidden my faith; it's part of who I am - but Kevin has his own views and he is entitled to them. I despise those in-your-face Bible bashers: as far as I'm concerned they do more harm than good. That's why I always signal when I'm posting a Christian link with "song for Lent", etc - that way, when people have such an aversion to faith, they need not listen to it. We all need to respect one another's views, so that's why, if a question is raised,I am very happy to discuss it either on private email or skype. I'm sad that Kevin felt the need to announce his departure. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: Jamie collins - Email Address: jamie.collins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On: 08/03/2013 00:43 Sent To: Kevin Burgin, guide.chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: kevin.burgin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, guide.chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [guide.chat] In Reply To: hi all -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Burgin - Email Address: kevin.burgin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On: 07/03/2013 21:48 Sent To: guide.chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: guide.chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [guide.chat] hi all Hi all Due to the growing amount of religious rubbish on this forum I am leaving the Guide.chat list. If you wish to continue receiving my recipes contact me off list at Email: kevin.burgin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Otherwise, goodbye.You got to beleive in God, with all hour problems, another 1 do us faver and go away,