Hi again James, I know that it's hard to use a long cane in the snow,I think that it's virtually impossible,but when the devil drives,we somehow get there. I bet that the scot's have so much more resilience than me,only being a southerner,and I know that anywhere from the midlands and further up,think that us southerners are soft. I guess you may be right ,but in a heartfelt way. Jan.