Scripting has never appealed to me. If I was forced to do it I would have to find pieces to put together from the Internet as I don't know the syntax. I do as much as I can via GUI as I am not a big fan of CLI interfaces. I don't want to get into a debate over scripting, but I think Microsoft has taken a severe turn negatively with not providing a way to do this as we have done for years in Office 2000, XP and 2003. Justin A. Salandra MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003 Network and Technology Services Manager Catholic Healthcare System 646.505.3681 - office 917.455.0110 - cell jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 'FoR ReaLz' E. Balansay Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:06 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SPAM] [gptalk] Re: [SPAM] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy Importance: Low Hello, In my very humble opinion, a "Network and Technology Services Manager" who displays proudly their MCSE in Windows 2000 & 2003 is expected to *at least* know how to produce a tiny script that puts icons on users' desktops. It may have been better to spend the time it took memorizing MCSE brain dumps on learning a few scripting commands -- Just joking, LOL! =) Scripting is not solely a "programmer's" tool, as is well known, some tasks are just not efficient utilizing a GUI, as opposed to a CLI, especially for network admins. Anyhow, I am merely attempting to convey that using scripts is a great tool which every network admin should attempt to gain familiarity with. Goodbye! Edgardo BTW, I am not a programmer, but consider scripting *fun,* if you would like a volunteer to assist with creating scripts, please contact me off-list, and I'll be enthusiastic to assist for your organization where possible. On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Salandra, Justin A. wrote: > I don't use redirected desktops and I am not a programmer and do not > know how to script. > > > > Justin A. Salandra > > MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003 > > Network and Technology Services Manager > > Catholic Healthcare System > > 646.505.3681 - office > > 917.455.0110 - cell > > jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > ________________________________ > > From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 12:57 PM > To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [gptalk] Re: [SPAM] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy > > > > Scripts? Folder Redirection? All lousy but plausible answers... > > > > > > From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 9:19 AM > To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [gptalk] Re: [SPAM] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy > > > > How will you put icons on the desktop? > > > > Justin A. Salandra > > MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003 > > Network and Technology Services Manager > > Catholic Healthcare System > > 646.505.3681 - office > > 917.455.0110 - cell > > jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > ________________________________ > > From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of tools@xxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 11:17 AM > To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SPAM] [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy > Importance: Low > > > > Justin- > > What are you trying to customize exactly? I did manage to install Office > 2007 via GP using a config.xml file that excluded all apps except > Powerpoint, Excel, Word and Outlook. I've attached the file below so you > can see what it looks like: > > > > - <Configuration Product="Ultimater"> > > - <!-- > > <Display Level="full" CompletionNotice="yes" SuppressModal="no" > AcceptEula="no" /> > > --> > > - <!-- > > <Logging Type="standard" Path="%temp%" Template="Microsoft Office > Ultimate Setup(*).txt" /> > > --> > > <PIDKEY Value="####-####-#####-#####-#####" /> > > <USERNAME Value="User" /> > > <COMPANYNAME Value="SDM Softwware" /> > > - <!-- > > <INSTALLLOCATION Value="%programfiles%\Microsoft Office" /> > > --> > > - <!-- > > <LIS CACHEACTION="CacheOnly" /> > > --> > > - <!-- > > <SOURCELIST Value="\\server1\share\Office12;\\server2\share\Office12" > /> > > --> > > - <!-- > > <DistributionPoint Location="\\server\share\Office12" /> > > --> > > <OptionState Id="AccessFiles" State="absent" Children="force" /> > > <OptionState Id="GrooveFiles" State="absent" Children="force" /> > > <OptionState Id="PubPrimary" State="absent" Children="force" /> > > <OptionState Id="OneNoteFiles" State="absent" Children="force" /> > > <OptionState Id="XDOCSFiles" State="absent" Children="force" /> > > - <!-- > > <Setting Id="Reboot" Value="IfNeeded" /> > > --> > > - <!-- > > <Command Path="msiexec.exe" Args="/i \\server\share\my.msi" > QuietArg="/q" ChainPosition="after" Execute="install" /> > > --> > > </Configuration> > > > > > > From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:21 AM > To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy > > > > I will try that when the restore finishes. > > > > > > Justin A. Salandra > > MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003 > > Network and Technology Services Manager > > Catholic Healthcare System > > 646.505.3681 - office > > 917.455.0110 - cell > > jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > ________________________________ > > From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:05 AM > To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy > > > > Since you didn't do an admin install in the first place, how about just > using the msiexec <package location> /p <patch location) form of the > command? > > > > > > From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 6:58 AM > To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy > > > > I tried the msiexec /a /p command and was unable to re-deploy the > application. Got a MsiDatabaseCall failure. > > > > Justin A. Salandra > > MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003 > > Network and Technology Services Manager > > Catholic Healthcare System > > 646.505.3681 - office > > 917.455.0110 - cell > > jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > ________________________________ > > From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:00 PM > To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy > > > > I agree that is how it worked. I have done it many times. I cannpt > figure out how to apply the .msp to the network installation point, (the > area where we copied the install files to) > > > > Would it be done using the msiexec command? > > > > If so, would you still use the /a command? > > > > Msiexec /a \\server\share\visio\visiopro.ww\visioww.msi > <file:///\\server\share\visio\visiopro.ww\visioww.msi> /p > \\server\share\visio\updates\file.msp > > > > ________________________________ > > From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:05 PM > To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy > > > > Normally, the way it works prior to Office 2007 is this. Let's say you > want to deploy Office 2003 via GP. You create an admin install point, > create any MSTs and then deploy the package. Then, along comes a path. > You patch the install point using msiexec /p with the .msp file and then > you issue a re-deploy. That is what I was told is the proper order for > these Office 2007 msps, but again, I haven't tried it. > > > > > > From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:54 AM > To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy > > > > Since you can't add an .msp to a GPO, how do you get it to run > automatically? > > > > I am not sure I understand this "needs to get applied after the initial > install and then you do a re-deploy on the package in GP to get your > previously installed clients to pick it up." The initial install is via > GPO, so you are saying apply the policy, then run the .msp and then > re-deploy the policy? That sounds wired. > > > > There has got to be a better way. > > > > Justin A. Salandra > > MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003 > > Network and Technology Services Manager > > Catholic Healthcare System > > 646.505.3681 - office > > 917.455.0110 - cell > > jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > ________________________________ > > From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 1:49 PM > To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy > > > > What I just learned is that the MSP needs to get applied after the > initial install and then you do a re-deploy on the package in GP to get > your previously installed clients to pick it up. I know it sounds hokey. > I was just on a call with the MS GP team and they are going to try and > get the Office team to document this better. I will post something here > when I find it out. Also, just in case, because I don't know if you > mentioned it, but Office 2007 does not support per-user Software > Installation at all. Just so you know. > > > > > > From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:12 AM > To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy > > > > When modifying the config.xml I was able to enter in the license info, > however the .msp that I created and placed in the Updates folder did > nothing. When I ran the .msp manually it appeared to do what I wanted, > like placing the icon on the desktop. > > > > Is there a way to run the msiexec command to update the VisProWW.msi > file with the updates from the .msp. Apparently, all the statements > from Microsoft that anything in this folder will be installed and > applied during initial install is false. Unless this statement is if > installing it manually and not via Group Policy. > > > > Justin A. Salandra > > MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003 > > Network and Technology Services Manager > > Catholic Healthcare System > > 646.505.3681 - office > > 917.455.0110 - cell > > jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > ________________________________ > > From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:36 AM > To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy > > > > Right. If you go to the archive for this list, Michael Pietrzak had > posted some items about this. I don't believe the .msp buys you anything > in terms of customization. I hope to test some of this today, however. > > > > From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:31 AM > To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy > > > > What about using the setup.exe /admin switch to create the .msp file? I > read that if you leave the .msp file in the Updates folder of the folder > structure on the network share that it will apply it during > installation. I am not sure I believe this works, because an > installation of Visio 2007 pushed out but once I opened the product it > asked me for the CD Key which I had already put in the .msp file that I > created. > > > > Justin A. Salandra > > MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003 > > Network and Technology Services Manager > > Catholic Healthcare System > > 646.505.3681 - office > > 917.455.0110 - cell > > jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > ________________________________ > > From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:50 PM > To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy > > > > Good question Justin. Actually it is possible to deploy Office 2007 > through GP but it has completely changed. You no longer create an admin > install point. You just copy the CD bits to the share. And, it no > longer supports transforms. You have a file called config.xml that > support minimal customization that you put in the install directory > along with the bits. Really a step back actually. MS used to have a > technet article describing this but the pulled it recently. However, > thanks to the wonders of Google, you can still find it cached at > > > http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:kLaHkfhp8PoJ:technet2.microsoft.com > /Office/en-us/library/efd0ee45-9605-42d3-9798-3b698fff3e081033.mspx+conf > ig.xml+office+2007+"Group+Policy"&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1 > <http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:kLaHkfhp8PoJ:technet2.microsoft.co > m/Office/en-us/library/efd0ee45-9605-42d3-9798-3b698fff3e081033.mspx+con > fig.xml+office+2007+%22Group+Policy%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1> > > > > Darren > > > > From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:26 AM > To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [gptalk] Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy > > > > Does anyone know who the Office 2007 products can be pushed out via > group policy? How do you create an administrative installation point? > How to you include customizations? > > > > Justin A. Salandra > > MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003 > > Network and Technology Services Manager > > Catholic Healthcare System > > 646.505.3681 - office > > 917.455.0110 - cell > > jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > *********************** You can unsubscribe from gptalk by sending email to gptalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the freelists.org Web interface. Archives for the list are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/gptalk/ ************************ *********************** You can unsubscribe from gptalk by sending email to gptalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the freelists.org Web interface. Archives for the list are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/gptalk/ ************************