[gptalk] Re: Domain Admins are not Local Admins
- From: "Omar Droubi" <omar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:52:49 -0800
OK how about this:
get a clean Win XP box (BTW is this only happening on workstations or servers
as well?)
Get a clean Win XP in a workgroup. Join the domain but do not reboot.
After the domain join is successful- open computer management and look at the
local groups to see if this situation is occurring at the time of domain join
or after the fact.
Once you are through that- reboot that WIn XP off the network. Login with local
admin and check the groups again If there were no group changes after the
domain join.
Now- is the domain admin account also added to local admins or just the
debuggers group?
Let me know what results- this is an interesting situation.
Omar
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From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Ray Lewis
Sent: Tue 12/19/2006 9:46 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Domain Admins are not Local Admins
Hi Paul - thanks for the reply...
As expected, RSoP.MSC shows no Restricted Groups present. The only startup
script being applied to clients is a local Administrator password change using
the conventional NET USER Administrator %1, however this method has always been
used and this only started occurring recently...
What if an old Restricted Policy was set to apply Domain Admins and the Domain
Administrator account but has since been revoked... Is there a way it could
retain this reversal? If so, the million dollar question is, how do I set it
back to the default, thus being Domain Admins and Domain Administrator account
as local Admins?
It's a really nasty problem this one but I really appreciate all your advice -
Thanks Guys :-)
Ray
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From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Paul Williams
Sent: 19 December 2006 11:42
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Domain Admins are not Local Admins
If you're sure that there's no restricted groups policy (use RSoP.MSC to
verify) being applied then perhaps you're being bitten by what many refer to as
"security through obscurity". In other words, have you perhaps renamed your
administrators group? If this is widespread then probably not, as GPO only
supports renaming Administrator and Guest as far as I remember.
Another option could be an erroneous startup script.
Restricted groups is the most likely. A weird script could also be doing this.
As could some management tool like Quest's InTrust or HPs OVOW.
--Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Lewis <mailto:razor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 2:38 AM
Subject: [gptalk] Domain Admins are not Local Admins
Hi Guys
Not sure if this is exactly GPO related or whether the domain GP is
screwed, but when a computer joins our domain, the Domain Administrator and
members of the Domain Admins Group are added to the local machine as a Debugger
User. By default, these should be in the Local Admins group.
Restricted groups within the Domains Group Policy is not active..
Any ideas?
Cheers
Ray
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