Guys, some of us have been discussing how we can fairly handicap spinnaker vs non-spinnaker boats, and boats more equipped for cruising, etc. The following is from Old Point Comfort Yacht Club. It is the way they do it and probably the way handicap will be figured for the "Point to Pointe" regatta coming up in June: Check out their website for further information. http://opcyc.tripod.com/ "Boats need to declare whether they want to race in "Cruising" class, "Non-Spin" class, or "Spinnaker" class as follows: 1. "Cruising" class (single headsail, less experienced racers or families, boats carrying lots of cruising gear. No spinnakers or cruising spinnakers) 2. "Non-Spin" class (double headsails allowed downwind, no spinnakers or cruising spinnakers) These people usually have more racing experience than "cruisers". 3. "Spinnaker" class (spinnakers may be used) These people also have more racing experience than "cruisers". "Cruising" class boats get additional rating "plus-up" based on gear carried, experience level, age of sails. Forms are on the OPCYC web site - Racing page, Appendix 10 "Cruising Credits". "Non-Spin" boats sail straight PHRF ratings. "Spinnaker" class boats get a handicap penalty of 18 sec/mile subtracted from PHRF rating. If race is all upwind and nobody flies a kite, the rating penalty is removed (after the fact) and spinnaker boats get re-scored. (Normally we only have one or 2 spin boats) This rating adjustment scheme tends to "level the playing field so cruisers don't feel that they are being run roughshod over quite so badly by whatever racers are in the group. You can give a single set of trophies this way. (though giving inexpensive and utilitarian trophies such as bottles of wine gives you the flexibility of awarding more or fewer trophies as appropriate on race day)