[gps-talkusers] Re: laptops versus note takers for the blind
- From: vincent <vinnroc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 14:46:16 -0400
I WOULD EVEN SETTLE FOR A TREKKER TYPE VERSION OF THE BN GPS. now THAT IS
WAY OUT THERE.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Leary" <lgerry3@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 2:11 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: laptops versus note takers for the blind
> I also agree. I started with GPS-talk, and loved it. I had a trekker for
a
> little while, but I found it to be unreliable. I have no interest in a
note
> taker for the blind. So far I have found them to be to limited and out of
> date compared to laptop technology.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fernando Botelho" <fbotelho@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 3:54 PM
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] laptops versus note takers for the blind
>
>
> > You guys are right on that one; you can add me to the list of people not
> > happy with machines designed exclusively for the blind. I rather have a
> GPS
> > system on the smaller, faster, more powerful, more versatile, and much
> > cheaper Fujitsu P1120 laptop than on any blind-specific notetaker out
> > there--which explains why I don't have a GPS system right now.
> >
> > Fernando
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mary Ellen Earls
> > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 9:07 AM
> > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Out dated pois
> >
> >
> > I actually would like to see the strider brought back in a windows
version
> > because I am becoming more and more disalusioned with the field of
> blindness
> > technology as a whole.
> >
> > Mary Ellen Earls
> > Remember! Today is the Tomorrow you thought about yesterday.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "vincent" <vinnroc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 4:39 PM
> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Out dated pois
> >
> >
> > > Go Charles there is a bunch of us who can't wait. I think there is a
> > bunch
> > > of laptop lurkers. ---- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Charles La Pierre" <lapierre@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 7:18 PM
> > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Out dated pois
> > >
> > >
> > > > I am always looking at ways to create an Atlas Speaks and Strider
> again.
> > > > Charles.
> > > >
> > > > At 10:36 AM 9/5/2004, you wrote:
> > > > >Could this be a consideration sometime down the road?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Michael May" <MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 12:35 PM
> > > > >Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Out dated pois
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Rich,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The maps were discontinued for that format. We could get updated
> > POIs
> > > but
> > > > > > not maps. There were also licensing and insurance issues, which
> > makes
> > > the
> > > > > > annual cost about $20,000 before you sell one copy, crazy but
> true.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The better solution is to port our current software to a laptop
> > > platform
> > > > > > but that too isn't inexpensive in terms of time and priorities.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > At 03:18 PM 9/3/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > > >Mike:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I still have version 1.85 of Atlas and GPS Talks on my laptop
and
> > it
> > > > >works
> > > > > > >great. True, the maps are somewhat out of date. How difficult
> > would
> > > it
> > > > >be
> > > > > > >to resurrect that with new maps. Are the new maps addressed
> quite
> > > > > > >differently?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Rich Irwin
> > > > > > >rich.irwin@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rich.irwin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > >[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Michael
> May
> > > > > > >Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 2:26 PM
> > > > > > >To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > >Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Out dated pois
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Chip,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >It is a matter of time and money to port the software to a
laptop
> > > > >platform.
> > > > > > >All the map licenses remain the same as for the BrailleNote.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >However, we also have requests for GPS on the PK, GPS on
Keysoft
> > 6.1
> > > and
> > > > > > >GPS on generic Windows CE PDAs. I wish we had the funding to do
> all
> > > these
> > > > > > >things.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Mike
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >At 01:19 PM 9/3/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > > > >It may not be possible via the software.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >As I have mentioned before I was trying to develop a similar
> > > product
> > > > >for
> > > > > > > >laptop users, and I was using MapPoint for it's mapping data
> and
> > > POIs.
> > > > > > > >MapPoint does not allow you to delete or edit any of it's
list
> of
> > > POIs,
> > > > > > > >so all I can do is essentially ask it to give me a list of
its
> > POIs
> > > > > > > >within a defined radius of a defined point.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I also added a user POI database, and in that I was planning
to
> > > allow
> > > > > > > >edits and deletions, but I too (if I ever could complete the
> > > project,
> > > > > > > >which isn't looking likely), would face the same restriction
on
> > > > > > > >commercial POIs.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I suppose I could add a second database of known POIs that
are
> in
> > > > > > > >MapPoint that the user doesn't want reported, and then search
> it
> > > each
> > > > > > > >time MapPoint gave me a list of POIs, but that sounds like a
> lot
> > of
> > > > > > > >extra work and extra processing for a relatively small amount
> of
> > > gain.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Unfortunately, my paying job has taken up much more of my
time,
> > and
> > > > >will
> > > > > > > >continue to do so, so it may be that someone else will have
to
> do
> > > this
> > > > > > > >project.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >What about it Mike? With all that experience you have, could
> you
> > > > >modify
> > > > > > > >your program to work in a laptop environment?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Chip
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > > > > > > > > [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Todd
> > > Patkus
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 4:23 AM
> > > > > > > > > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Out dated pois
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > Mike et al,
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > If you, Mike, say no about commercial POIs, then, what
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> > > > > > > > > your reason for denying that? Makes no sense! Kim is=20
> > > > > > > > > correct, so please think twice before saying something.
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > >From: Michael May <MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > >To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 19:30:27 -0700
> > > > > > > > > >Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Out dated pois
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > >You cannot update commercial POIs, only your user POIs.
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > >Mike
> > > > > > > > > >At 06:09 PM 8/20/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>Better yet, Can we update an existing poi, or atleast=20
> > > > > > > > > rename the poi=20
> > > > > > > > > >>if need be in the case of a closing or changing
business?
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > >>From: "Kim Lookingbill" <seadolphink@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > >>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > >>Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 4:16 PM
> > > > > > > > > >>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Out dated pois
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > >>> Hi: - Living in a competitive area for businesses,
where
> > > new=20
> > > > > > > > > >>> businesses
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > >>>are opening up almost weekly, while others are closing
> > their
> > > > >doors=20
> > > > > > > > > >>>for a
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > >>>final time. What would be the procedure of notifying
> > the=20
> > > > > > > > > map folks=20
> > > > > > > > > >>>of a
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > >>>no longer existent business designated at a particular
> > POI=20
> > > > > > > > > setting,=20
> > > > > > > > > >>>so
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > >>>these updates, and adjustments can be made for future
map
> > > > >editions..
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > >>>Thanks, and all the best. - Kim
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > >>>P.S.: I am aware that Pois can be edited/deleted
> within=20
> > > > > > > > > your personal
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > >>>settings on your own BN, but I'm thinking more on the
> line
> > > of=20
> > > > > > > > > >>>informing
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > >>>the proper persons in charge of the master map copies
so
> > > outdated
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > >>>information is not included on future map updates.
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > >>> Kim Lookingbill
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > >>>kim@xxxxxxxxxxxx (email or MSN Messenger)
> > > > > > > > >=20
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> > > > Charles M. La Pierre CTO
> > > > Sendero Group, LLC
> > > >
> > > > Lat. 37 15' 25" N Lon: 121 53' 04" W
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