[gps-talkusers] Re: half way to anywhere
- From: "David Egan" <david.egan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:10:00 -0700
United does indeed offer a feed from the flight deck, at least they did
a short time ago when I flew from Washington Dc back to Seattle. The
flight went by quickly as I was quite intertained with GPS, the voice
note with it's radio, and of course the feed from the flight deck. Not
sure if the same is offered on international flights, but have been on
many United domestic flights where that was available via the head-set
hook ups. David
-----Original Message-----
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:47 AM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: half way to anywhere
Mike, does United offer a feed from the flight deck for the tower? I've
flown on flights (I'm thinking it was united) where you were able to
listen
to the air to ground communication and all the vectors and changes. If
you
had that audio information and a live GPS feed plus some understanding
of
the possible flight plans filed (wonder if they are available publically
on
the internet you could get that in real time on your cell) you should in
theory be able to nail it.
This also tells me I should get out more.:)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael May" <MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:22 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] half way to anywhere
> It is interesting because they say it is 2398 flight miles between SFO
and
> Honolulu airports. That probably assumes you go 100 percent straight
> between those two airports. I think I got something close to that when
I
> compared the two points on my GPS.
>
> However, the flights are seldom direct between two points. There are
air
> corridors much like highways on the ground. By the time we arrived in
> Honolulu, we had actually flown closer to 2500 miles.
>
> So, the question of the mid point assumes a direct line, not exactly
what
> happens in reality.
>
> I marked a point around 1200 miles from San Francisco. It is as
follows.
> Lat: 28, 25, 35.1300 N.
> Lon: 140, 16, 5.1720 W.
>
> I'd be curious next time someone flies to Hawaii how close you come to
> this point.
>
> So, to play our own game, how far is it between Honolulu and Chicago
> O'Hare airports and where is the mid point?
>
> What technique did you use for both of these questions?
>
> Don't email the list until I ask for your answers. I'll share my
> techniques and then ask what you did. Go ahead and cue up your answer
> before you hear mine and then send it once I ask for your email.
>
> Mike
>
>
> At 06:42 PM 4/16/2008, you wrote:
>>Providence, Nice. Makes me hungry for a Diangelos #9 steak sub!
>>:)
>>
>>
>>The Pizza and Sub sandwiches AKA grinders they make out here in the
wild
>>west need a lot of work!
>> I'm taking a flight for work in the next few weeks, I'll give the
>> receiver in the window shade thing a try.
>>
>>Thanks mike.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael May"
>><MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:31 PM
>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: half way to Hawaii
>>
>>
>>>I take the receiver out of its case and slide it between the shade
and
>>>the window. This seems to work on most aircraft but not all.
Sometimes
>>>the fit is too tight.
>>>
>>>I am now headed from Honolulu to Providence Rhode Island via Chicago.
Way
>>>too long to sit on airplanes.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>At 02:21 PM 4/16/2008, you wrote:
>>>>Hi, that's interesting.
>>>>
>>>>So the plane I flew in and tried this most recently had smaller
windows
>>>>than your average boing 7xx or airbus 3xx so that may have been part
of
>>>>my problem.
>>>> I recorded speeds, when I could get a fix, around 700 (high
690's)
>>>> but I think the average comercial speeds are in the 5 - 6 range,
>>>> figuring in wind and so on your speed over ground very well might
have
>>>> been right in that range. I'll take smaller windows and no GPS
though,
>>>> 3 hours ten minutes from San Jose to Rhode Island was pretty hot!:)
>>>> Got there before the drugs stopped working and I needed a
maintenance
>>>> dose.:)
>>>> I have to say though I think that's a pretty cool use for the
>>>> Sendero product. I don't know how many flights I've been on where
the
>>>> pilot just didn't care about giving updates and about 3 hours in
you
>>>> get a bad case of "are we there yet". Knowing exactly where you
are
>>>> would be nice. Another example of where our tools give us an edge.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Grabowski"
>>>><chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:59 AM
>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: half way to Hawaii
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>I've used the m-1000 cross the country twice with no issues. both
>>>>>times I had it on my shoulder.
>>>>>If I remember correctly the top speed was somewhere around 650 mph.
I
>>>>>actually have a replay of the entire four hour flight.
>>>>>Chris
>>>>>On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:53:21 -0700, "Scott Granados"
>>>>><gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike and others, do the consumer portable GPS receivers (like the
>>>>>>Holux)
>>>>>>work well at altitude and speed in a comercial flight? I know
that
>>>>>>Cell
>>>>>>phones can work but you have to position them just right in the
window
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>even there it's sketchy because it's not so easy to get a signal
in or
>>>>>>out
>>>>>>of a big metal tube. Texting was the best reliable method at
speed,
>>>>>>voice
>>>>>>was flakey so I'd expect GPS (being in the same frequency
>>>>>>neighborhood)
>>>>>>would be tricky? Also, do they work at the higher rates of speed?
I
>>>>>>tried
>>>>>>some of this with a US-Globalsat receiver and it was problematic.
>>>>>> Cool use of the tool though. Wonder if United will figure it
out
>>>>>> when a
>>>>>>bunch of blind air travelers consistently start winning the prise
with
>>>>>>your
>>>>>>POI.:)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael May"
>>>>>><MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>To: "GPS-talkusers-freelists.org" <GPS-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:22 AM
>>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] half way to Hawaii
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>United Airlines plays a game when flying from San Francisco to
>>>>>>>Hawaii. The
>>>>>>>pilot gives passengers a variety of information so we can guess
the
>>>>>>>time
>>>>>>>the flight crosses the midway point between the two airports.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Should you have obtained permission to use your GPS on the
flight,
>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>might be able to have a little extra tool working in your favor.
It
>>>>>>>is a
>>>>>>>bit tricky because the head winds change and the speed is slower
>>>>>>>during
>>>>>>>the first 20 minutes of flight as you reach the cruising
altitude.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I came within 4 minutes but someone else won the prize. I did
drop a
>>>>>>>user
>>>>>>>POI close the the mid point to help future GPS travelers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Michael G. May
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>CEO Sendero Group
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"The GPS company:" Sendero Featuring GPS on the mPower, PK and
Voice
>>>>>>>Sense. Also distributing Trekker, Victor Stream, KNFB Mobile
Reader,
>>>>>>>Talks,, Tiger embossers, Miniguide and ID Mate
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Crashing Through by Robert Kurson available at
>>>>>>>http://www.CrashingThrough.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>http://www.SenderoGroup.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1-888-757-6810, Fax (530) 757-6830, Mobile (530) 304-0007
>>>>>>>Sendero Group, LLC
>>>>>>>1118 Maple Lane, Davis, CA 95616-1723, USA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>Chris Grabowski
>>>>>- Customer Support and Product testing
>>>>>Sendero Group
>>>>>"The GPS company." Also, distributors of the mPower, PK, Victor
>>>>>Stream, Voice Sense, KNFB Mobile Reader, Talks, Miniguide and ID
Mate
>>>>>
>>>>>Phone: 888-757-6810 EXT. 113
>>>>>Email: chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>>Michael G. May
>>>
>>>CEO Sendero Group
>>>
>>>"The GPS company:" Sendero Featuring GPS on the mPower, PK and Voice
>>>Sense. Also distributing Trekker, Victor Stream, KNFB Mobile Reader,
>>>Talks,, Tiger embossers, Miniguide and ID Mate
>>>
>>>Crashing Through by Robert Kurson available at
>>>http://www.CrashingThrough.com
>>>
>>>MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>http://www.SenderoGroup.com
>>>
>>>1-888-757-6810, Fax (530) 757-6830, Mobile (530) 304-0007
>>>Sendero Group, LLC
>>>1118 Maple Lane, Davis, CA 95616-1723, USA
>
>
> Michael G. May
>
> CEO Sendero Group
>
> "The GPS company:" Sendero Featuring GPS on the mPower, PK and Voice
> Sense. Also distributing Trekker, Victor Stream, KNFB Mobile Reader,
> Talks,, Tiger embossers, Miniguide and ID Mate
>
> Crashing Through by Robert Kurson available at
> http://www.CrashingThrough.com
>
> MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.SenderoGroup.com
>
> 1-888-757-6810, Fax (530) 757-6830, Mobile (530) 304-0007
> Sendero Group, LLC
> 1118 Maple Lane, Davis, CA 95616-1723, USA
>
>
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