Thanks for the information, I didn't realize OCR on the 4S was so successful. On 2/9/12, Steve <drum67-72@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Alex, > > With simpler layouts, it can be just as good in terms of the results. But, > a big caveat is it takes a lot more practice than it took with the Knfb > Reader. > > As a former dealer, though, I can say that it took a bit of individualized > training with some clients to get decent results with the KNFB Reader, and > some never did get very good results. You need good spatial abilities, and > you need those even a bit more with the iPhone apps like SayText or Prizmo. > I find lifting the phone vertically straight up about a foot works best, if > I am in doubt about the lighting I confirm the conditions with the light > detector app. > > > Some people have made a tripod to put the iPhone in which has markedly > improved their recognition. I've seen samples comparing the same text > between the iPhone and Knfb Reader where the iPhone was more accurate with > Prizmo. > > I guess to keep this GPS related, all I can say is the iPhone is kind of > like a Swiss Army knife; it does a lot of things decently, although you can > get separate specialized devices that do that particular job better. I > don't find the navigational apps on the iPhone to be nearly as good as the > Sendero product, but if I could only have one device with me then I could > get by with reading and navigation using various iPhone apps. > > > "A person cannot survive as a true Spartan fan unless he is a bit of a > masochist and a very large optimist." > > Steve > Lansing, MI > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:27 PM > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: forcasting the future > > >> Thanks, I didn't realize it was that good. Do you know how it compares to >> the KNFB Reader, given the same page and lighting? >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from my iPod) >> mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx; //facebook.com/mehgcap >> >> On Feb 8, 2012, at 18:22, "Steve" <drum67-72@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Actually, you can do quite well with the OCR apps, particularly on the >>> iPhone 4s. There are, though, a few caveats. >>> >>> None of the OCR apps were designed with the blind in mind, so they don't >>> have things like a "field of view" report capability or the training >>> alignment sheet that the Knfb Reader has. The recognition seems to be >>> more critically correlated to good lighting conditions. Also, with the >>> Prizmo app, you get better results if you use earbuds and tell it to take >>> >>> the picture rather than douoble-tapping the take picture button, because >>> the act of tapping the phone causes image misalignment and jitter. >>> >>> >>> Politicians are like bananas, they enter congress green, turn yellow, and >>> >>> then they are rotten. >>> >>> Steve >>> Lansing, MI >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 4:13 PM >>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: forcasting the future >>> >>> >>>> If you need an OCR application, do not switch yet. There are ocr apps, >>>> but they, coupled with the iPhone's 8mp camera, do not do as good a >>>> job as the KNFB Reader Mobile. This is, at least, how I understand the >>>> current situation. The next iPhone may help, but we won't know until >>>> it comes out and the ocr apps out there are updated. >>>> >>>> On 2/8/12, Dianne B. Phelps <d.bphelps@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> Thank you so much for asking those questions because I am pondering the >>>>> >>>>> same >>>>> thing about the IPhone. I have the KNFB mobile on the Nokia phone and >>>>> am >>>>> happy with it. In fact, I sat here yesterday doing bills and reading >>>>> mail >>>>> with it. I haven't madce up my mind whether it is time to consider a >>>>> change >>>>> or not. >>>>> >>>>> Dianne >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Howard Kaufman >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:44 AM >>>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: forcasting the future >>>>> >>>>> The feature I like best in the Sendero, is the ability to get detailed >>>>> information about the upcoming intersections. I have never used GPS on >>>>> >>>>> a >>>>> cell phone. Is that feature available? Is their enough volume to hear >>>>> >>>>> the >>>>> information in busy traffic? What do you do when the phone rings? How >>>>> >>>>> long >>>>> >>>>> do you have power for GPS? Does this require data time? See, I no >>>>> nothing, >>>>> >>>>> but since the money and the time are mine, I can't afford to be wrong. >>>>> >>>>> To change your email settings (unsubscribe, digest only, or vacation >>>>> mode): >>>>> http://senderogroup.com/social_media/email.htm >>>>> >>>>> Additionally, to unsubscribe send an email to >>>>> gps-talkusers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject. >>>>> >>>>> To change your email settings (unsubscribe, digest only, or vacation >>>>> mode): >>>>> http://senderogroup.com/social_media/email.htm >>>>> >>>>> Additionally, to unsubscribe send an email to >>>>> gps-talkusers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>> mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>> To change your email settings (unsubscribe, digest only, or vacation >>>> mode): >>>> http://senderogroup.com/social_media/email.htm >>>> >>>> Additionally, to unsubscribe send an email to >>>> gps-talkusers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject. >>> >>> To change your email settings (unsubscribe, digest only, or vacation >>> mode): >>> http://senderogroup.com/social_media/email.htm >>> >>> Additionally, to unsubscribe send an email to >>> gps-talkusers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject. >> To change your email settings (unsubscribe, digest only, or vacation >> mode): >> http://senderogroup.com/social_media/email.htm >> >> Additionally, to unsubscribe send an email to >> gps-talkusers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject. > > To change your email settings (unsubscribe, digest only, or vacation mode): > http://senderogroup.com/social_media/email.htm > > Additionally, to unsubscribe send an email to > gps-talkusers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject. > -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap To change your email settings (unsubscribe, digest only, or vacation mode): http://senderogroup.com/social_media/email.htm Additionally, to unsubscribe send an email to gps-talkusers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject.