Hello Steve, Well I looked into the issue about UK Pub's not being classified under Alcohol Establishment but under Restaurant / Cafe and the problem is part TeleAtlas and part Sendero. TeleAtlas classifies Café/Pub with a main category of 9376, Café's have subcategory of 002, and Pubs have a sub category of 003. The problem is none of the pub's are classified with a sub-category of 003, but are classified as 001 which is "Unknown"/"Not Specified". So the problem on TeleAtlas side is all these Pubs are "Unknown" and not "Pubs" and the problem on Sendero side is we mistakenly put the 001/Unknown under Restaurant/Café instead of just Restaurant. This will be fixed with the next map/poi release, unless you all think we should keep it in the Café sub-category and instead rename Café to be Café/Pub but I am not sure this will help since we also have the Alcohol Category which sounds like its pretty useless in the UK. So the best thing for now is if you want to find a Pub, your best bet is to search in Restaurant and sub-category of Café. Hope this clears up this issue. Thanks Charles M. LaPierre CTO Sendero Group "The GPS company:" Featuring Sendero GPS on the BrailleNote, the Sense Nav, on Windows phones with Mobile Geo and StreetTalk VIP for the Pac Mate. Distributing Trekker Breeze and Wayfinder for Symbian phones. Also distributing Victor Stream, KNFB Mobile Reader, Talks, Mobile Speak, Tiger embossers, Miniguide and ID Mate charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.SenderoGroup.com 1-888-757-6810, Fax (530) 757-6830 Sendero Group, LLC 429 F Street, Davis, CA 95616, USA Lat. 37 15' 25" N Lon: 121 53' 04" W -----Original Message----- From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steven Bingham Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 10:29 AM To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] FURTHER EXPERIENCE OF UK POIS Hi all I have just returned from a short break on the English South Coast. Generally the Sendero system acquitted itself pretty well. We found a good place to stop on the way down. A nice pub just off the M25 which we would not have known about without Sendero. Against that we were sent on a couple of wild goose chases after places that did not appear to exist. The consistency and quality of the POI data continues to make me wonder. I found one motor repair place that was listed under at least five different names. There are only five alcohol establishments within 40 miles of Hastings (we were looking for a winery). The only places listed were wine shops and a couple of off-licences. Every single public house appears to be categorised under Restaurant, most have a subcategory of Cafe. One restaurant/cafe I declined to try was Hastings Buklding Services which got in there somehow. I can confirm that there are no churches in the whole of the UK apart from the odd one that gets itself listed as a tourist attraction. I wish I could think of some way of getting matters improved but Tele Atlass seem to be too big to take much notice of individuals. I was hoping that with productgs like Tomtom using the same maps things would improve but most Tomtom systems do not seem to make a great deal of use of POI data and certainly not in the same way that we users of Sendero do. The postcode facility appears to work really well. We were able to find a couple of places using their postcodes. Steve __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4343 (20090817) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4343 (20090817) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4344 (20090818) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4345 (20090818) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4347 (20090819) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4348 (20090819) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To change your email settings (unsubscribe, digest only, or vacation mode): http://senderogroup.com/email.htm Additionally, to unsubscribe send an email to gps-talkusers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject.