Yes Kev you are on the money. I do not even use a brail display and already with Jaws, openbook, KnFB and two voicenotes running Gps since version 3.0 hate to think what is spent on this stuff. but did I mention I now make over 8. times what I made when I first started with GPS 3. So The stuff we pay for can be worth every penny and more. hats off to sendero and even Freedom for having the stuff for us. Yes we need to save money but some times we just need to find the doe or away to get it. Remember we are blind there are people who are not broke and who are dyeing to either help someone or get a tax deduction of a gift maybe some want to do both. So let us not loose site there are many ways to find a way. My first equipment was paid for by gifts. Now I give them. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 12:30 PM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Netbook, iPhone, Android, GPS
Well said. The more main stream technology that can be used, the better. I'm still amazed that people pay thousands of dollars for these note takers that are, more often than not, behind the times. Ever since I got my Iphone a few weeks ago, I have not gone back to using my symbian or windows mobile phones, because, the Iphone does all those things and more, and is accessible out of the box. This is the way it should be. We should not have to pay a penny more than sighted people do for access to technology, and, finally, that is happening more than ever.On Oct 22, 2010, at 9:55 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:I have used Sendero GPS on BrailleNote since version 3.5 on mPower and PK, used Mobile Geo and still have it and in last year have used two iPhones. And, my favorite and what I am using exclusively, not only for GPS, but an array of task, including identifying currency, products, bar codes, note taking etc is iPhone. There's LookAround, which can give you heading, address, cross street, city, nearby POIs; AroundMe, search for POIs based on category, name; have it open in Navigon, which is a great and powerful turn-by-turn gps app. Navigon is very accessible, feature rich and company is very open to accessibility and have been working with them in improving areas. All this on a mainstream solution, which is much less than Windows Mobile, and Mobile Speak which as of latest Windows Phone 7, which has been announced earlier this month and will ship November will not be at all accessible. A Windows version is good for the power, speed of route creation, virtual exploration, but isn't a mobile solution. If it was 2000 and we didn't have i Phone 4, which is as powerful as a netbook, I would go for a windows solution. Times have changed, companies, users and we all need to catch up with it or be left in the dust. These various things, which are being dropped, such as HIMS dropping GW Micro, Trekker, BrailleNote PK not having been updated in 5 years and so many others... iPhone, Android, iPad is the now and future... These are mainstream solutions, with built-in accessibility and many great and amazing uses for them. THey are the price of these SMA, which we have paid for and paid for, which are across the board, from GPS to screen readers. Kevin On 10/22/10, richmail <richardsynnott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:To change your email settings (unsubscribe, digest only, or vacation mode):I also like the idea of using a netbook for many applications, for the reasons you mentioned, as well as being a fraction of the cost of specialised equipment. I am well known, to those who know me, forvandalising things. Sometimes my modifications work, but on other ocasions Iend up ruining the piece of apparatus. Well for once, one of these modifications has worked well for me.My sister phoned me up to say that her daughter had dropped her netbook, andthat the screen didn't work any more. I gave her my laptop, installed myscreen-reader and other software on to the netbook, and snapped the screenoff. and it works great, and is really practical for carrying around.The CF slot on my PK has stopped working, so I can't use the gps any longer, so consequently I am now currently trying to decide whether to buy an iphoneor a compatible device that works with Mobile Speak, though I think the postings regarding the Tomtom may have decided it for me, so thanks for those. Hope I haven't woffled too much. Regards, Richard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith (mteye)" <mteye@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 12:43 AM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: A Concerned Sense Nav CustomerWow, cool idea. A netbook, small, light in weight, flash memory so nopower sucking hard drive motors. Fewer drains on battery means long times between recharge. Fast processing power. All the power of a full operatingsystem, with all the usual apps. Drop in one of those extra authorizedkeys for speech technology that I already have for the desktop. Put on a shoulder strap, or streamlined cary pouch. Plus there's that route making tool that was announced recently for users of the 2010 products. How muchmore would have to be done to it to pick up the bluetooth link to thereciever, and process in real time? I'm thinking, not much but I'm not thesoftware engineer. Using mainstream technology for price benefit, and plugging in accessibility. What a concept. from Keith H -------------------------------------------------- From: "Howard Kaufman" <wa9top@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 6:32 PM To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: A Concerned Sense Nav CustomerI am hoping for a pc based sendero as well. With a netbook coming in at2.3 pounds, and at the size of an apex, why not? With windows 7 voice recognition capability, you might be able to talk to your gps as well, and for less than $300 in hardware to boot. Add a bluetooth Brailledisplay, and you still are thousands of dollars under the cost of a moneysucking proprietary machine. 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