[gps-talkusers] Re: FW: [Loadstone] ESA's most advanced navigation satellite launchedtonight

"Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx> · Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:17:23 -0700

No, the Euro and American systems are interoperable. (remember we're all

Nato members and this has everything to do with defense interoperability)

The receivers support the different systems so you wouldn't need to swap out

your hardware. Don't think of these as competing systems so much as systems

for their respective regions. It's just a little more comforting for the

Europeans to use a European spec system in their region and a US in ours but

they play nice.:) Also note the receivers you see, including the M1000,

support WAAS and EGNOS already and they stamp that on the box. You

shouldn't need to replace anything.

----- Original Message -----

From: "Jim Gammon" <jgammon1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 9:06 PM

Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: FW: [Loadstone] ESA's most advanced navigation

satellite launchedtonight

Hi Scott, abut the EU system uses different sattelite frequencies so we

would have to have a different receiver to use their system right? Seems

like there wouldn't be an advantage to their system from what you say.

Jim

----- Original Message -----

From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx>

To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 10:05 AM

Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: FW: [Loadstone] ESA's most advanced

navigation satellite launchedtonight

Your Receiver already supports this. The M1000 supports correction out

of the box. While we call the system WAAS and the folks in Europe EGNOS

the technologies are basically the same. I believe Mike has mentioned

that even though the Sendero products report WAAS correction, in fact

WAAS is the same indicator when EGNOS is detected as well. (they are

able to be interchanged)

 Also, the article has an error near as I can tell. It mentions that

EGNOS is better than GPS, that's an apples and oranges comparison. GPS

is the over lying technology and EGNOS is a correction system that makes

for a better GPS experience. Think of it as a Modem may use a suite of

protocols to create the actual connection but MNP does the error

correction, the MNP doesn't carry the traffic itself it's just a part or

subset of a larger collection of protocols.

HTH

----- Original Message -----

From: "Jim Gammon" <jgammon1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 9:08 PM

Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: FW: [Loadstone] ESA's most advanced

navigation satellite launchedtonight

Hi Kevin, so does that mean that someday we can get a Holux receiver

that will pick up the Euro system? Sounds better than what we have now.

See pasted below, from the bottom of the online article on their system:

a joint programme being carried out by the European Space Agency, the

European Commission

and Eurocontrol. It comprises a network of more than forty elements all

over Europe

that collect, record, correct and improve data from the US Global

Positioning System.

The modified signals are then relayed via geostationary satellites to

user terminals,

offering positional accuracy better than two metres, compared with 15 to

20 metres

for GPS alone. In addition, EGNOS provides a guarantee of signal quality

that GPS

does not.

----- Original Message -----

From: "Kevin Chao" <kevinchao89@xxxxxxxxx>

To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:39 PM

Subject: [gps-talkusers] FW: [Loadstone] ESA's most advanced navigation

satellite launchedtonight

Here is a bit of an update of EGNOS and the Galileo global navigation
satellite system.

Below is a message from the LoadStone list and in that message is a

link to

the full article.

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: loadstone-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:loadstone-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Melchers
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:04 PM
To: loadstone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Loadstone] ESA's most advanced navigation satellite
launchedtonight

ESA's most advanced navigation satellite launched tonight
27 April 2008

ESA PR 25-2008 A further step towards the deployment of Europe's

Galileo

global navigation satellite system was taken tonight, with the

successful

launch of ESA's second Galileo In-Orbit Validation Element (GIOVE-B)

satellite, carrying the most accurate atomic clock ever flown into

space.

http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM9GD2QGFF_index_0.html
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