[gha] Re: [gha-peace] Re: Re: Re: TR: L'ACCORD DE PAIX A MINSK ENTRE L'UKRAINE ET LA RUSSIE = ENFIN !
- From: María Cristina Azcona <mcrisazcona@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 12:54:58 -0300
I accept the expression western countries but cannot accept " christian
culture" and " christians by inertia" where the religion is mixed up with
politics
*María Cristina Azcona*
*@macazcona*
*María Cristina Azcona*
2015-02-18 12:49 GMT-03:00 Роксана Садыкова <roksana.sadykova@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Dear members of the GHA!
>
> I support Yulia Budnikova on the topic of Ukraine. There is a real war,
> where the government kill its own people. Children instead of going to
> school hiding in the basement with their mothers. Destroyed infrastructure,
> shells fall in hospitals, schools, homes. But in Western countries,
> unfortunately, there is no comprehensive and accurate coverage of these
> terrible events.
>
>
> Sincerely, Roxana Sadykova,
> Vice President GHA and GHA-Russia
> Address: Ufa, Republic Of Bashkortostan, Russia
> E-mail: roksana.sadykova@xxxxxxxxx
> Website: http://peacefromharmony.org/?cat=ru_c&key=624
>
>
> 2015-02-18 20:39 GMT+05:00 Prof. Ernesto Kahan <ekahan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
>> This discussion about arguments in for and against, including the
>> question of Maria Azcona, are very instructive in order to learn about this
>> bloody conflict that is very dangerous for the universal peace. We must
>> recognized that the press I can read in not a good source of information
>> Ernesto Kahan
>>
>> *From:* María Cristina Azcona <mcrisazcona@xxxxxxxxx>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2015 4:58 PM
>> *To:* gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>> *Subject:* [gha] Re: [gha-peace] Re: TR: L'ACCORD DE PAIX A MINSK ENTRE
>> L'UKRAINE ET LA RUSSIE = ENFIN !
>>
>> Christian culture what???
>>
>>
>> *María Cristina Azcona*
>> *@macazcona*
>>
>> *GHA VICEPRESIDENT CO FOUNDER*
>>
>> *María Cristina Azcona*
>>
>> 2015-02-18 8:52 GMT-03:00 Julia Budnikova <budnikova@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>>> Dear monsieur Сrequie! I want to notice that you distort the facts.
>>> Russia didn't make the peace with Ukraine because Russia wasn't at war with
>>> Ukraine. Ukraine is at war with own citizens in Donbass. And in Minsk
>>> Putin, Merkel and Hollande convinced this mad country in the person of
>>> her president to stop killing peace people. Will be to tell more honestly
>>> that it is the United States of America are at war with Russia. You can
>>> argue with arrogance of old Europe for what the West needs Russia. But I
>>> want to notice that after that fact that the European "Christian culture",
>>> you including and your governors, a half of year didn't tell any word
>>> against murder by the Ukrainian soldiers of the Russian children, women,
>>> old men, against destruction of schools and hospitals in Donbass, this old
>>> civilization finally died as CULTURE. For Russia and for God.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Julia Budnikova,
>>>
>>> Vice-president of Global Harmony Association,
>>>
>>> Acting President, GHA-Russia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* gha-peace-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>> gha-peace-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Guy Crequie
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 12, 2015 1:55 PM
>>> *To:* IFLAC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; MANAVATAVADI-GROUP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>>> Bhaskarroy@xxxxxxxxx; bilingualmca; wwpoenglish@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>>> decade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; al.bal@xxxxxxxxxxx;
>>> dan.cdm@xxxxxxxxx; 'Daniel Durand'; globalcommunity@xxxxxxxxx; 'Germain
>>> Dufour'; 'Adel Safty'; uni.alli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; gha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>>> ghausa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>>> peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; PeaceForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Peace
>>> and Conflict Studies Center (PCS Center);
>>> peacedayeducation4peace@xxxxxxxxx; 'Carol Rosin'; 'WWWI WCP KENOSHA'
>>> *Cc:* secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* [gha-peace] TR: L'ACCORD DE PAIX A MINSK ENTRE L'UKRAINE ET
>>> LA RUSSIE = ENFIN !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *De :* Guy Crequie [mailto:guy.crequie@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> <guy.crequie@xxxxxxxxxx>]
>>> *Envoyé :* jeudi 12 février 2015 11:43
>>> *Objet :* L’ACCORD DE PAIX A MINSK ENTRE L’UKRAINE ET LA RUSSIE = ENFIN
>>> !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *L’ACCORD DE PAIX A MINSK ENTRE L’UKRAINE ET LA RUSSIE = ENFIN !*
>>>
>>> *ET ESPERONS LE = DURABLE !*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Après de longues négociations préparées par les experts, 2 rencontres à
>>> Moscou puis Minsk et une longue négociation en ce dernier lieu (toute la
>>> nuit et une partie de la matinée) un accord de paix a enfin abouti entre la
>>> Russie et L’Ukraine et les séparatistes pro-russes ont été représentés à
>>> certains niveaux de la négociation. Un accord de paix a été trouvé, jeudi
>>> 12 février au matin à Minsk, après plus de quatorze heures de négociations.
>>> Les quatre dirigeants russe, ukrainien, français et allemand vont se porter
>>> garants d'un compromis qui a été signé par des émissaires ukrainiens et
>>> russes, les séparatistes et l'Organisation pour la sécurité et la
>>> coopération en Europe (OSCE).*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *La France et l’Allemagne représentées par le Président François
>>> HOLLANDE et la Chancelière Angéla MERKEL ont été à l’initiative de ce long
>>> marathon de paix et ont pris une part plus qu’active pour son
>>> aboutissement.*
>>>
>>> *Les points durs de la négociation étaient :*
>>>
>>> *- Quel avenir pour le Donbass ?*
>>>
>>> *- Les frontières*
>>>
>>> *- Les prisonniers*
>>>
>>> *- Le cessez-le-feu*
>>>
>>> *- Un accord respecté ?*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Après des milliers de morts, des exodes forcés, et la guerre à la porte
>>> de L’Europe, on ne peut que se féliciter de cet accord et surtout espérer
>>> son respect.*
>>>
>>> *Certes, Vladimir POUTINE a l’ambition de redonner à la Russie la
>>> grandeur de la grande Russie tsariste au temps de sa splendeur et des
>>> meilleures années de l’Ancienne URSS. Cependant, la diplomatie américaine
>>> et parfois européenne avaient commis des erreurs. Les perspectives d’une
>>> possible entrée de l’Ukraine dans l’UE (Union Européenne), et pire dans
>>> l’OTAN, ne pouvaient qu’irriter le Maître du Kremlin.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Les armes tues, il faudra trouver par la diplomatie et la bonne volonté
>>> la place de l’Ukraine dans le concert international : une place qui
>>> respecte ses liens historique avec la Russie malgré les péripéties de leur
>>> histoire et son ouverture vers L’Union Européenne.*
>>>
>>> *Vladimir POUTINE au-delà de son caractère et de ses pratiques este le
>>> Président de la Russie. Ce pays est doté de l’arme nucléaire et siège comme
>>> membre permanent au Conseil de sécurité de l’ONU. Entre autres, ce pays
>>> peur tenir un rôle majeur pour le règlement de la situation politique en
>>> Syrie.*
>>>
>>> *Alors, que les nébuleuses terroristes avec l’existence et l’agressivité
>>> de Daech, Boko Haram, Aqmi…. Posent des problèmes pour la paix mondiale,
>>> l’humanité a besoin d’une harmonie entre l’Orient et l’Occident, entre les
>>> pays du Nord et ceux du Sud et présentement des pays comme la Chine, la
>>> Russie, l’Inde, le Brésil, l’Afrique du sud, le Nigéria, l’Indonésie,
>>> l’Egypte, l’Iran,…auront de plus en plus toute leur place dans le concert
>>> international.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *La réalité et l’expansion du terrorisme international héla concrétisé
>>> principalement par le fondamentalisme musulman inspiré notamment par le
>>> Wahhabisme et le salafisme conduisent de grands pays et des Institutions à
>>> envisager des rapprochements avec le régime iranien et celui de Bachar
>>> Al-Assad malgré ses crimes par la force de l’urgence.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *La levée des sanctions économiques contre la Russie devrait permettre,
>>> espérons- le, la reprise progressive de coopérations pas seulement
>>> politique et économique, mais également sur le terrain culturel. Ce pays
>>> peut aussi apporter sa part au règlement du dossier du nucléaire iranien.*
>>>
>>> *Sachons apprécier, et surtout faire vivre cet accord dans le respect
>>> des différences politiques, culturelles et sociales, pour la dignité
>>> humaine et le bien commun universel.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Copyright Guy CREQUIE*
>>>
>>> *Ecrivain français-Observateur social*
>>>
>>> *Messager de la culture de la paix de l’UNESCO*
>>>
>>> *Représentant français d’ONG internationales*
>>>
>>> *De paix et d’harmonie*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *THE PEACE AGREEMENT WITH MINSK BETWEEN THE UKRAINE AND RUSSIA =
>>> FINALLY!*
>>>
>>> *AND LET US HOPE FOR IT = DURABLE!*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *After long negotiations prepared by the experts, 2 meetings in Moscow
>>> then Minsk and a long negotiation in this last place (all the night and
>>> part of the morning) a peace agreement finally led between Russia and the
>>> Ukraine and the separatists pro-Russian were represented on certain levels
>>> of the negotiation. A peace agreement was reached, Thursday, February 12 in
>>> the morning with Minsk, after more than fourteen hours of negotiations. The
>>> four leaders Russian, Ukrainian, French and German will go guaranteeing of
>>> a compromise which was signed by Ukrainian and Russian emissary, the
>>> separatists and the Organization for safety and the co-operation in Europe
>>> (OSCE).*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *France and Germany represented by President François Hollande and the
>>> Chancellor Angela Merkel were on the initiative of this long marathon of
>>> peace and took a share more than active for its result.*
>>>
>>> *The hard points of the negotiation were:*
>>>
>>> *- Which future for Donbass?*
>>>
>>> *- Borders*
>>>
>>> *- Prisoners*
>>>
>>> *- Cease-fire*
>>>
>>> *- A respected agreement?*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *After thousands of deaths, forced exoduses, and the war with the door
>>> of Europe, one can only be pleased with this agreement and especially hope
>>> for its respect.*
>>>
>>> *Admittedly, Vladimir PUTIN has the ambition to give again in Russia the
>>> size of large Russia tsarist at the time of his splendor and of the best
>>> years of the Old USSR. However, the American and sometimes European
>>> diplomacy had made mistakes. The prospects for a possible entry of the
>>> Ukraine in the EU (European Union), and worse in NATO, could only irritate
>>> the Master of the Kremlin.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *The weapons kill, it will be necessary to find by the diplomacy and the
>>> good will the place of the Ukraine in the international concert: a place
>>> which respects its bonds history with Russia in spite of the adventures of
>>> their history and its opening towards the European Union.*
>>>
>>> *Vladimir PUTIN beyond his character and of its practices este the
>>> President of Russia. This country is equipped with the nuclear weapon and
>>> seat like permanent member at the Security Council of UNO. Inter alia, this
>>> country fear of holding a main function for the regulation of the political
>>> situation in Syria.*
>>>
>>> *Then, that terrorist nebulas with the existence and the aggressiveness
>>> of Daech, Boko Haram, Aqmi…. Pose problems for world peace, humanity needs
>>> a harmony between the East and the Occident, between the countries of the
>>> North and those of the South and at present of the countries like China,
>>> Russia, India, Brazil, South Africa, Nigeria, Indonesia, Egypt, Iran,… will
>>> have more and more all their place in the international concert.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *The reality and the expansion of international terrorism héla
>>> concretized mainly by the Moslem fundamentalism inspired in particular by
>>> Wahhabisme and the salafism lead large countries and Institutions to
>>> consider bringings together with the Iranian mode and that of Bachar
>>> Al-Assad in spite of its crimes by the force of the urgency.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *The lifting of the economic sanctions against Russia should allow, hope
>>> for it, the progressive resumption of co-operations not only political and
>>> economic, but also on the cultural ground. This country can also bring its
>>> share to the regulation of the file of the Iranian nuclear power.*
>>>
>>> *Let Us Can appreciate, and especially make live this agreement in the
>>> respect of the political, cultural and social differences, for human
>>> dignity and the universal community property.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Copyright Guy CREQUIE*
>>>
>>> *Writer social French-Observer*
>>>
>>> *Messenger of the culture of the peace of UNESCO*
>>>
>>> *French Representative of ONG international*
>>>
>>> *Peace and of harmony*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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