[geocentrism] Re: rotating mass

  • From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:38:13 -0700 (PDT)

  Me in blue..
   
  Whilst the rotation or otherwise of the worlds mass has no effect on the 
orbital calculations, it does have an effect on what and where we see the bird 
from our observation point here on the world. Which goes back to what you see 
is not necessarily ever what you get. Of course to be technically correct, a 
rotating earth, due to its irregular shape will make slight course deviations 
to the orbiting bird. 
   
  How does what you observe in a orbiting bird not demonstrate...what you 
observe..!??? (WYSIWYG) You either see the bird on a given course or not. Even 
then the course that the bird takes does not prove why it took that course or 
describe the mechanics involved. It only tells you that something(s) caused it 
to take that course.........I can't for the life of me see why you have such a 
hard time with seeing this most basic of logical errors....you attempt to put a 
conclusion before the proof as proof for the conclusion!? 
  
philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    DIV {   MARGIN: 0px  }        Whilst the rotation or otherwise of the 
worlds mass has no effect on the orbital calculations, it does have an effect 
on what and where we see the bird from our observation point here on the world. 
Which goes back to what you see is not necessarily ever what you get. Of course 
to be technically correct, a rotating earth, due to its irregular shape will 
make slight course deviations to the orbiting bird. 
   
  Philip. 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Deema 
  To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 11:19 PM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Question begging
  

      Robert B
  Comments interpolated in black.
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  Hey ? beautiful plot! and rotten data! 
  Only the geosync sat and the Moon have the right GC periods. Please indicate 
what you think the GPS and LEO orbits to be (or the formula to do the 
calculation) and I'll make changes. References to other sources indicating that 
your assertion is a generally held belief would add confidence to the exercise.
  How hard can it be to compute satellite periods for an immobile Earth?? Not 
hard at all -- it is the same as for a rotating Earth. The Earth's rotation is 
not a parameter.
  Or was the Earth assumed to be both accelerating and not accelerating? When 
you made this statement in an earlier post, I assumed it was made unwisely in a 
fit of pique and I simply passed over it, but now that you have repeated it, it 
would seem you really believe it is a valid point. I have indicated previously 
that your comments show a very poor understanding of basic physics (btw -- you 
still haven't favoured us with any information about your PhD or the subject of 
your doctoral thesis -- is it something of which you are not proud?) and 
comments by Philip M bear me out in this specific matter. In any event, and I 
guess your weakness in physics shows up here again, the Earth's acceleration 
(revolution) does not influence the period of its satellites either.
  RB 
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  Paul D
  


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