[geocentrism] retiring ...
- From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:50:33 +1000
"from the information you originally stated, and still do on your corrected
diagram, the motor is a motor, un energised, and as such has a rotor that is
free to move independently of the stator THE DISC WOULD NOT KEEP ITS SAME FACE
TO THE CENTRE DOT. AND THAT IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES YOU WERE IN ERROR. .Will
you acknowledge that first. Then we can continue discussing your demo.
what on God's earth are you talking about?!......What kind of motor or (are)
you discusing?!....
This has to be a joke! Not the sentence, the whole charade. Nothing more need
be said..
I retire from this subject .. I pray Paul does as well, so that I be not
tempted.. I feel very much like a victim of morbid manipulation, even though
in good faith I tried to talk in basic physical terms.. I correct my typos in
every instance that I notice them. I proof read every post, and yes
occasionally an errror slips by.
Allens posts have been so depressing, on scientific terms of his reaction, that
I have honestly wondered if this is not a game he plays, based on hate of
Catholics and Athiests. He does not even come half way to an understanding, but
retaliates with in-nate verbacity, of the type above. Over and over again.
This makes me feel sad and depressed in the sense that whereas I love every
single person, desiring above all in charity that they find Jesus Christ in God
Almighty, and that I tolerate absolutely any infirmity in other people
regardless of sex colour religion or bias, preferring always to turn the other
cheek. (yes in emotion I fail many times in the real world, but in writing this
is hard to do) . In my entire life no one has ever tried my patience more than
has Allen in every subject he has discussed with any person on this list. I
have spent my heart in literal hours of trying to get some cognisance out of
his recycled verbacity and responding to it.
Why? Because on this list, I thought that all people here were interested in
TRUTH above all else. Even the self acclaimed athiest Paul has this same
objective, even though he conflicts with everyone else here. But he has shown
no reluctance to listen. That really is all God asks of any person.
I have to confess also that I am sad that none here has taken a stand, or made
any comment concerning what to me is really a basic observable reality of
mechanical law, having nothing to do with celestial observations. If this is
anti catholic bias, thats fine, because I welcome persecution in all forms, for
no other reason than that Jesus Himself said, "If any man will come after me,
let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For he that will
save his life, shall lose it: and he that shall lose his life for my sake,
shall find it. For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world and
suffer the loss of his own soul?
Philip.
----- Original Message -----
From: allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 9:47 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Corrected Goofs
"from the information you originally stated, and still do on your
corrected diagram, the motor is a motor, un energised, and as such has a rotor
that is free to move independently of the stator THE DISC WOULD NOT KEEP ITS
SAME FACE TO THE CENTRE DOT. AND THAT IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES YOU WERE IN
ERROR. .Will you acknowledge that first. Then we can continue discussing your
demo.
what on God's earth are you talking about?!......What kind of
motor or you discusing?!....There is always some mechanical resistance that
must be over come no mater what...I have not goofed or refused to answere you i
keep answering you and you are making absolutly no sense whatsoever!?..... Phil
the resitance that must be over come by the motor .....is not just a "side
note"!!!......That is "crem della restantce"...!?!??!?!?!? it matter not how
much or how little only whether or not it does!
--- On Thu, 12/18/08, Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Corrected Goofs
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 3:26 PM
"from the information you originally stated, and still do on
your corrected diagram, the motor is a motor, un energised, and as such has a
rotor that is free to move independently of the stator THE DISC WOULD NOT KEEP
ITS SAME FACE TO THE CENTRE DOT. AND THAT IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES YOU WERE IN
ERROR. .Will you acknowledge that first. Then we can continue discussing your
demo.
what on God's earth are you talking about?!......What kind of
motor or you discusing?!....There is always some mechanical resistance that
must be over come no mater what...I have not goofed or refused to answere you i
keep answering you and you are making absolutly no sense whatsoever!?..... Phil
the resitance that must be over come by the motor .....is not just a "side
note"!!!......That is "crem della restantce"...!?!??!?!?!? it matter not how
much or how little only whether or not it does!
--- On Thu, 12/18/08, philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
From: philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Corrected Goofs
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 3:07 PM
Allen you are still avoiding the key issue. It is not
important how the rotor was imobilised, but it is a most important point that
it was immobilised, something in which you goofed again in trying to
demonstrate your theory. You did not declare that important point.
"not because how is important, but because I need to be sure
you really meant a locked stator/rotor." ..What? I know it is not
importaint, that is my point...how is irrelevant.........whether welded or just
plain old "mechanical resistance" it is one and the same condition wrt
motion?!.....If you state that how is not importaint then what is your
question?...any way you lock it it will demonstrate a identical condition....NO
ABILITY TO ROTATE.....
....I STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU REAED AGAIN WHAT I JUST GAVE YOU
VERY VERY SLOWLY BEFORE YOU BLOW IT OFF AS "GARBLED STUFF" ....How can anyone
read it concisely when you make such confusing words. Your NO ABILITY TO
ROTATE.....is unconditional, like most of your sentences, badly defined.. An
unenergised motor is free to rotate, or it is not a motor. ...
from the information you originally stated, and still do on
your corrected diagram, the motor is a motor, un energised, and as such has a
rotor that is free to move independently of the stator.. As such I was correct,
despite your ongoing unsupported arguments to the contrary, in stating- THE
DISC WOULD NOT KEEP ITS SAME FACE TO THE CENTRE DOT. AND THAT IN THOSE
CIRCUMSTANCES YOU WERE IN ERROR.
Will you acknowledge that first. Then we can continue
discussing your demo. Phil
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