[geocentrism] Re: polar orbits.
- From: "Gary Shelton" <garylshelton@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 02:38:15 -0600
Philip,
Is "Twiddle twaddle" an official Aussie word?
ha.
Anyway, the main nit-pick wasn't about the term "geostationary" though that
is what you say you meant. But rather about the "it" in your question,
'What stopped it?' I thought you were referring to the orbit itself, but
you meant the satellite I see.
That's great, but it brings up another question back at you. If in your
mental exercise the satellite was doing a polar route and then we "nudged"
the thing 90 degrees to make it a geostationary/equatorial orbit, you ask
'What stopped it?'.
I'm a bit mixed up, perhaps, but I think this is the wrong question. You
wrote,
"It is no longer moving..... That is if the earth is indeed stationary...."
But, Philip, if the earth is indeed still as we all hold to here, then that
would cause the thing to streak across the sky, I would imagine...not stop.
Only if the earth were rotating would you be expecting it to move, seems to
me.
I also want to throw in again a question that has raised its head here
before. Can they get these birds to orbit westwardly? That would be
interesting in itself, I feel.
In any case, in your mental exercise I should think we would see your
satellite either doing, or not doing, figure 8's as it passed through the
geosynchronous region of orbits well before the question of what happens to
it once it reaches the Equator, yes?
I wish I had the geo answer for the figure 8 issue.
Sincerely,
Gary Shelton
----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip" <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:02 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] polar orbits.
> What
> "it" are you referring to, exactly? The orbit? I assume this, and that
you
> mean that once you have "nudged" the polar orbit, what causes the orbit to
> stop in a geosynchronous (did you mean geostationary here?) orbit around
the
> equator. Gary..
> Ok Gary. Let me clarify my word usage. Remember this is just a mental
exercise.
>
> Orbit is a track... Satellite is an object that follows this track .. A
geostationary satellite is one that is on an equatorial orbit, and because
of its speed is synchronised radially with the alleged rotation of the earth
and thus appears to be stationary. (so I make geostationary and geo
synchronous the same thing...Lets not twiddle twaddle over it)
>
> If the earth is stationary, then so also must be the satellite... not
moving in any manner. So let me start again. Pretend the earth is a perfect
sphere to avoid complications...near enough.
>
> We launch a rocket from spot on the north pole to put it in an orbit
"vertically" or longitudinally around the earth . It will cover both
poles... We give it the exact same period, velocity and height that the
equatorial orbit has for a synchronous satellite. ...
>
> Let the earth be stationary. Thus this orbit will track over the same
longitude circumnavigating the globe every 24 hours. If the earth is
rotating, this will show up as an oblique 45 degree scan across the
longitudes. Some will say: There is your proof. However, Rob will introduce
his plenum, and say not proven...
>
> I believe there may be no need for The plenum. The polar orbit may just
show a still earth. After all It has never been done. It cannot be done from
California, because all their calculatons are based upon their belief
system. of a rotating earth for which they will compensate.
>
> Back to your question. We know that the calculations for a given body
rotating in orbit at 22000 miles etc do produce a 24 hour circumnavigation
of the earth, which the polar launch will prove . And from the earth we
will SEE it scooting by N to South etc, every day.
>
> My question was ....If the earth is not rotating, and we tip this
satellite and its orbit (track) over 90 degrees, into a perfect equatorial
plane, it will suddenly be seen to have stopped and have assumed a
stationary position in the sky. It is no longer moving..... That is if the
earth is indeed stationary.... What stopped it.
>
> Can you not see how easy it is for the HC people to say "Obviously, it
hasn't stopped... The earth is moving in synch with it....""" And thus why
Neville does not want to accept their existence....But they do exist.. Any
one with basic antenna knowledge will prove this.. Radio waves , especially
in the high Gigahertz range, behave like light. and a dish is like a
telescope, a radio telescope.
>
> The perfect polar launch should prove for or against us. If aganst, then
we will really need Roberts plenum theory... and I like it.... even though I
do not quite understand it yet... We have much more to discuss yet Robert.
The Washing machine is not good enough.....
>
> Philip.
>
>
>
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