Robert after I examined your reply to Phul concerning the 24 hour conundrum he raised with Mars, I realised Phul was not thinking straight.. He applied the wrong paper mechanical model making enormous peculiar sweeps across an imaginary solar system beyond imagination. Mars crashed into Earth. So based upon your points raised, and after difficult decoding of same, without GWW, I went and got out the solar system map he used, placed it upon the table. I then got a suitably sized wod punch, placed it over father Earth, hit it with a hammer and cut earth out of the paper. Then I nailed Earth to the table. Then I got hold of the map and rotated it around the nailed now stationary earth.. Beautiful HUH.. Why didn't you describe it so simply..?? Uhuh Oh yeah, GWW.. again. but my model cost less than a dvd.. Now Paul, that should impress you, and convert you to at least the possibility of geocentrism.. If you think about it, the sun no longer is doing enormous speeds through space..Consider the paper of the map as space. The sun is merely moving with space around the earth. Brilliant! Tell NASA. Phil. Now when God wanted to help Josh, all He did was stop the paper (thats space ) from moving for 24 hours, and that stopped the moon and everything.. .. simple eh.. Of course I knew all along.. It was Phul who got it confused.. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Bennett To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: An off subject subject. We can start right at the beginning with the standard Biblical conundrum: What did the Earth revolve around in the first 3 days of Genesis? RB No, as far as I see it, Joshua's long day can only be viewed from the geocentric standpoint, either in science or in scripture. If you accept scripture and you want a "proof" of geocentrism, then this is surely it. Regards, Neville. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.23/924 - Release Date: 28/07/2007 3:50 PM