[geocentrism] Re: astronomical question

  • From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "geocentrism list" <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:52:40 +1000

Ahhh!  some sanity back at last. "bogosity alarm-bells"  I like that.  

Marvellous Regner.. Thanks for the big picture. Mc Canney uses a lot of 
mythology of the ancient Atlantis Aztec type, which by today is pure 
speculation as no real documents remain. One of his promotions comes from the 
medieval ages Catholic religious order in Scotland which even the church calls 
myth, but has no real records of what it did other than the usual monk ey 
business.  Also there is a lot of VonDanekin type Aliens from Space, mixed with 
New Age man is destined to expand into space, type influence..  in essence I 
suspect he is a sensationalist grabbing sales for his books etc..  I love it .. 
Its in the great tradition of Startrek, and todays Stargate.. where everybody 
speaks perfect English.    

Meanwhile, he does expose the great banking conspiracy, New World Order 
Government control agenda, which is always on his menu. 

Thus I suspect his overall profile is meant to discredit this real truth by 
crackpot association. 

That doesn't work because the dumbed down masses believe everything, 
comprehending nothing. 

I'm looking forward to May, because the real prophecies all speak of a comet 
flyby which grievously affects our atmosphere, wiping out anything up to 75% of 
the population..  2008 is a good year for it. When I see how the sporting 
crowds behave on TV today, a gigantic wave seems rather late in coming, don't 
you think? But of course I hope the 2012 date is more likely. 

Anyway, I'll be there with a stubbie in my hand, cheering as the wave passes 
over me head, 

Regner, do you get the feeling this list is in self destruct mode? We really 
need your case for the antigeocentric argument to bring us back to earth. ..  
I'm armed up for it. 

Time for another beer...  Its the Irish devil in me..  a canna help it. 


tomorra begorra, I'll ask about the Kuiper Belt or Oort Cloud objects..  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Regner Trampedach 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:00 PM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: astronomical question

  Hi Philip,

    Your bogosity alarm-bells should indeed go off.
  The equatorial South pole will bee right on the horizon if you are
  at the equator - it can be seen from half the Earth (obviously hosting
  less than half the population) - it is hardly secret. Ever heard of the
  Southern Cross? - I thought so. It is in the general vicinity of the
  equatorial South pole - again, hardly secret. There are several major
  observatories in the Southern hemisphere (they can therefore see the
  equatorial South pole).
    That something should be coming in from 90 degree South at
  Earth's distance from the Sun is, to put it mildly - unlikely. In our
  neck of the woods things orbit much closer to the ecliptic, say +/-30
  degrees at most. And if it was a comet it would be easy to spot well
  in advance - they grow large comas this close to the Sun. If it was
  an asteroid, we would have a harder time spotting it - but then, they
  don't have that kind of orbit.
    Equating "Planet X" with Kuiper Belt or Oort Cloud objects, is
  really grasping for straws. "Planet X" was invented at the beginning
  of the 20th century to explain anomalies in the orbits of the outer planets.
  These anomalies disappeared with improved measurements (from
  Voyager 2) of the mass of the outer planets, notably Neptune's.
     Current statistics suggest about 35,000 Kuiper Belt objects larger than
  100km and 100,000,000 objects larger than 20km across - hundreds of
  times more than in the asteroid belt - but obviously a much larger volume
  so the density in the Kuiper Belt is orders of magnitude smaller. These
  and asteroids and comets et al., are called "minor planets" - not planets,
  as McCanney wants you to believe. I don't know what "NASA
  announcement" he refers to, but I suspect he exchanged "planet" for
  "minor planet" or "Galaxy" for "Solar System".
    Towards the end he seems to describe a comet - an ordinary comet.
  Why should we care (except from an astronomical view) about just
  another comet - we have seen thousands of them. If he wants an
  ordinary comet to be "raging", well, fine with me, but it doesn't really
  mean anything. And why, why! would anybody be interested in
  hiding (apart from that you can't do that) a comet from the public???
  I don't know his motives, but he seems to be a good fear-monger.
  Reading other astro-related parts of his website, it is clear that he reads
  a lot and mixes and matches words from various sources and makes his
  own (scary) reality.


  philip madsen wrote: 
    On Astronomy: 
    McCanny made a sort of prophecy today.based upon " so NASA one week ago 
proclaimed it now envisions the solar system with THOUSANDS of planets ... the 
new official nasa view of the solar system (concept thoroughly stolen from my 
many lectures on "The Many Planet X Objects") ... while The Discovery Channel 
announces to the world that Planet X is being searched for by teams of 
astronomers world wide as announced by Japanese astronomers who have been 
watching changes in the orbits of the outer planets ... they even call it 
Planet X in the journal article that published their study " 

    He claims that a rogue planet or comet if you like is maybe due to become 
visible in May. He bases this "time" on certain political activities.. listed 
at the end of this message......  AND (and here is the lead to my question), as 
it is coming from the south, we ordinary folk not having any access to southern 
observatories sufficiently south to see that sky, will finally get to actually 
see it in May.  

    Now is it true and possible that there is a part of the sky that cannot be 
seen below the South pole..  ???  Excluding government access of course, such 
as satellites etc. 

    His reasons:
    then there is the military edict that all US military bases were to be 
moved to underground bases by may of 2008 ... wait !!! it is 2008 ... and all 
naval facilities had to be relocated to a set of new facilities by ... yup ... 
may 2008 ... remember that everyone wants to talk about 2012 ??? i have always 
said that the main reason for the 2012 diversion is to keep everyone thinking 
distant future and not concentrating on the present ... and then there is the 
"last grab" with the seeming lack of interest in the financial and social 
destruction of the good ole united states and world wide for that matter ... 
NASA and the standard news media such as Discovery Channel sure would want to 
be in the news media drivers seat if something like a planet X object shows up 
... they sure would not pre-announce to far in advance because the short memory 
US public would not remember more than a few hours let alone weeks - months or 
years ... and last but not least we are heading into the merry merry month of 
may ... the one time during the year when we get a glimpse of that small patch 
of sky to the far south in late may and early june ... the time of year that Dr 
Harrington (deceased head of the US naval observatory that was in charge of the 
NASA funded and administered 1980s program called "The Search for Planet X" ) 
... the time of  year harrington chose to head down under to new zealand to 
take astro-graph pics of ... Planet X ... HMMMM ... what do you think ??? are 
we about to get our first glimpse of one of these celestial intruders ... 
remember it will come into the solar system and erupt into a giant raging comet 
... and NASA will try to tell you of course (along with their mouth piece The 
Discovery Channel) that ... don't mind that thing up in the sky ... its just 
one of those little dirtly snowballs ... if such an event is on the horizon ... 
certainly they will want to be in control of the "news" you see ... and 
certainly will not want you listening to me ... jim mccanney



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