Nick I will compile a resume. The Galelleo affair was before the rules of infallibility were defined, so this allows the evolution/creationists, (slow creation LOL) a reason to make controversy of it. I t was the work of a "protestant" Irish Catholic priest, who did not accept the TRUTH about Genesis, who set about to prove that certain decrees were infallible, simply to make the Infallibility doctrine, and the Church stupid and wrong, because as he believed, "everybody and his dog knows that the world rotates and moves around a stationary sun" Fr. Roberts.. Obviously "Rome" believes that today, so it has "given up the Ghost" and gone to bed with the devil... But I do have on file a very good compilation of the history wih comment supporting the GC view. I will send it privately to any requesting it, Titled, The Theological Status of Heliocentrism October 1997 by J. S. Daly Chapter 2 begins like this with a long list of dates.... Documents and Facts Bearing Upon the Church's Attitude to Heliocentrism 24th May 1543: Nicolas Copernicus' De Revolutionibus Orbium Caelestium is published with ecclesiastical approval on the day of its author's death. The study argues in favour of heliocentrism in several places but is prefixed by a preface explaining that heliocentrism is advanced only hypothetically. This preface was commonly assumed for some years to have been written by Copernicus himself, though it is now established that its true author was Osiander. 18th February 1564: Galileo Galilei is born at Pisa. 1600: Giordano Bruno is tried for heresy. During his trial the Consultors of the Inquisition listed among the unorthodox propositions taught in his writings several in favour of heliocentrism, based on Copernicus. Pope Clement VIII deleted these from the list of propositions he was to abjure. Bruno was burned at the stake. ----- Original Message ----- From: Niemann, Nicholas K. To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:53 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Gary asked for it. Philip, I think you've stated this well. Can you save me from hunting. Where is the Church's definition on the immobility of the earth. Thanks, Nick.