[geocentrism] Fw: Misquote in Bulletin of Tychonian Society, March 1986
- From: "Philip" <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:17:13 +1000
Some interesting points pertaining to our subject, and subjects... Of course I
do not agree with this Catholic writer RS when he said, "From the Vatican,
in its official declarations, there is neither a confirmation of the theory
of
Evolution nor Copernicanism, although there are many in power who try to
make opinions as if they were fact."
Unless he meant the current Vatican, which is maybe likely.
In any case, even had there been official declarations, without the compliance
with dogmatic formula, they would still have no power, and if they were
contradictory, they would not be Catholic. Its as simple as that.
What is noteworthy is that these two men can work together in a respectful and
peaceful manner.
Philip.
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From: origins
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Subject: Misquote in Bulletin of Tychonian Society, March 1986
Note: Sungenis [RS] is dipping all the way back to
1986 -- to one of the bulletins by Dr Gerardus Bouw
[GB] -- to tell him about this correction. As you know,
RS is Catholic & GB is Protestant. RS hopes to publish
his book later this year........................."origins"
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From: <Sungenis@xxxxxxx>
To: <gbouw@xxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:37 PM
Subject: Misquote in Bulletin of Tychonian Society, March 1986
Gerry,
Greetings. I hope all is going well.
I am writing regarding a misquote I found in one of the back issues of the
Bulletin of the Tychonian Society, Number 41, March 1986, editor Gerardus
Bouw.
In doing research for our book Galileo Was Wrong, I came across this quote
on page 28 of â??News Extractsâ??:
â??The December 1984 issue of Omni Magazine carried an interview with Pope
John Paul II in which the pontiff declares that â??Genesis is a myth. Itâ??s
not a
scientific statement of how the world came to be but a statement that God
had
something to do with it (p. 65). This seems to now be the official stance
of
the Vatican...â??
I obtained the 1984 issue of Omni in order to verify this quote, and as it
turns out, it is applied to the wrong person. John Paul II did not say it.
Father George Coyne of the Vatican Observatory said it.
Unfortunately, Omni Magazine mislead the reader because it put the quote
above a picture of John Paul II on page 58 without indicating that it was
not
John Paul II who made the statement. The reader doesnâ??t find out who
actually
said the quote until he gets to page 140, where it reads:
â??Coyne is even more forthright. â??The Book of Genesis,â?? he says, â??is a
myth.
Itâ??s not a scientific statement of how the world came to be but a statement
that God had something to do with it.â?? He quotes Galileo: â??God gave us the
scriptures to teach us how to go to heaven and not how the heavens go.â??
We in the Catholic Church would expect this kind of statement from Fr.
Coyne, since he has proven to be what you might call a â??flaming liberal.â??
John
Paul II, of course, is also entitled to his personal opinions, but when it
comes
to proclaiming Catholic dogma, he is bound by what his predecessors have
dogmatized, and he cannot change it.
Our Church has a long history of upholding the historical character of
Genesis, and the 1909 Pontifical Biblical Commission under Pope Pius X made
it
quite explicit that the first three chapters of Genesis enjoy this privilege
as
much as any other part of Scripture, and no pope has ever, or will ever,
rescind that status, I can assure you.
I know its hard to tell, sometimes, what is official and not official today
at the Vatican, but that distinction must be maintained, since our Church is
infiltrated by just as many liberals as your denomination. From the Vatican,
in its official declarations, there is neither a confirmation of the theory
of
Evolution nor Copernicanism, although there are many in power who try to
make opinions as if they were fact.
Incidentally, in our book, Galileo Was Wrong, I will be quoting extensively
from your back issues of BTS and your book, Geocentricity, regarding your
scientific conception of the firmament. Is there anything that has changed
in
your view since then, or do you have any new mathematical calculations with
which I should be aware before this goes to print?
May Godâ??s grace be with you.
Robert Sungenis
PS: I am sending a blind carbon copy of this letter to members of the Kolbe
C
enter for the Study of Creation, a Catholic organization of scientists and
theologians defending the literal interpretation of Genesis and a Six-Day
ex-nihilo creation.
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