Robert, Leaving aside your detailed analysis for the moment, in answer to your question, "Even if the claim is true, what does this all prove?", in order for us to get anywhere on this geo-helio business, we need to ascertain what data we take as genuine. Most astronomical data now comes from NASA, either directly or indirectly. We therefore need to determine its reliability. For example, would you consider biological data that only came from evolutionists? Or would you view some of this data with suspiscion? Neville. --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun!