[geocentrism] Re: Bible and Earth's Movement
- From: "Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:46:53 -0600
Dear All,
I've been sidetracked for a while and have missed reading a lot of
entries. I have been intending to respond to Neville's question on
whether we agree what the Bible says regarding the nonmovement of the
Earth. I haven't spent the time to study this first hand enough.
However, I wanted to introduce the group to my favorite author, who has.
Her name is Solange Hertz (who is familiar to any Remnant readers out
there). She has a chapter in her book "Beyond Politics--A
Meta-Historical View: A Layman's Guide to What Keeps on Happening" which
is entitled Recanting Galileo. I wanted to share some of this as food
for thought. I don't know if the group has discussed the work of
Fernand Crombette. She alludes to him. He was a French author and much
of his work can be found on the CESHE website. Briefly, though I can't
do justice to explaining his approach, he took the Hebrew translation of
the Creation account (and other passages) of the Old Testament and
interpreted them back to the Coptic language, believing this to be what
Moses would have originally written them in, and in so doing he was able
to uncover additional meaning (as well as re-translate Hierogliphics).
One of the other things he did was to painstakingly consider that before
the flood, since there was less water on the Earth, he lined up the
entire continental boundaries as they look with less water, and shown
that before the flood they formed one continent with the look of eight
flower petals (an interesting parallel to Neville's flower pattern). In
the center is Jerusalem, which was where he thought it would be due to
wording in the Bible.
Some on point excerpts from the Hertz book include the following:
"The fact remains that few if any passages from the Bible can be adduced
in favor of the heliocentric hypothesis, whereas some two thousand have
been found to support the geocentric one. To Msgr. Piero Dini, one of
Galileo's most fervent adherents, Cardinal Bellarmine quoted Psalm 18 as
evidence that the sun moves around the earth, verse 6 picturing the sun
"as a bridegroom coming out of his bride chamber," rejoicing "as a giant
to run the way: His going out is from the end of heaven, and his circuit
even to the end thereof."
She also cites Jos 10:12-13, Eccles 1:5-6, Psalm 92, Psalm 103, Psalm
95, I Paralipomenon 16:30, and Job 26:7.
She also states:
"Many geocentric systems besides those of Aristotle and Ptolemy have
been developed, Tycho Brahe's being perhaps the best known. The
different arrangements each uses to explain the celestial movements may
or may not be true, but all agree on the centrality of Earth, around
which everything takes place. That Earth is immovable does not
necessarily mean that it is stationary, but only that it occupies an
immovable potition at the center of the universe. The late Fernand
Crombette, a French Catholic scholar of extraordinary genius whose work
is only now becoming known, was a confirmed geocentrist who came to the
concludion on the basis of studies in Scripture and hieroglyphs that the
earth is in fact not motionless. He maintained that it turns in place
on its axis once every twenty-four hours, while at the same time
traveling a very small yearly orbit "at the pace of a man walking,"
around the universal center, which its circumference touches at all
times. The sun, traveling around the same universal center in a much
larger orbit in the company of the planets, would therefore be revolving
around the orbiting Earth as well, in true geocentric style."
I can quote more from her if anyone is interested, but I thought I'd
contribute this to the discussion. I do recall from reading some of
Crombette's works that he believes the moon once had its own
illumination apart from the sun.
Regards,
Nick.
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