- Don't feel bad, it's not as bad as what I did last spring in Southern Illinois. This one cost me a lot of money! Here's my log from the Hutchins Creek Cache. Well, I don't really know where to begin. I was on a family herping outing & had planned to do some caching also but, the others in my group (newbie cachers) aren't as gung ho as me & didn't want to cache in the dark so, I headed out on my own. I found Cache with a view while it was still light & then headed to Inspiration point. I finished this on in the dark & got a bit turned around but, that's another story. I then headed for this cache by way of Hutchins creek road. I DO NOT recommend this road for anyone without a 4x4! I was in my moms mini van. I got within .25 miles of the cache when the road decided to cross the creek. I stopped & got out to inspect the creek & decided it wasn't very deep but, still I was skeptical about trying to cross it. I finally decided to cross it after seeing a truck coming from the other direction pass through it easily. Man was that a mistake!!! I was nearly across when the van died due to the water being over the tail pipe. After about 20 minutes of starting the van moving a couple of inches & then having it die again I finally got out. At first the van was running very rough but it soon smoothed out & I was on my way back to camp when suddenly I heard the sound of breaking metal & the engine died. I had thrown a rod through the oil pan! I caught a ride back to the camp sight, & had my dad tow the van back with his truck. We ended up having to rent a uhaul truck with a trailor to pull the van the 250 miles back home. All we wanted was the trailor but, the guy @ uhaul refused to rent it to us because he didn't think my dad's gmc pickup could handle the weight. At first the guy was going to charge us $211.00 for the truck, $88 for the trailor & then $160 for deposits. But, dad talked him into taking $150 total. On top of that I now have to replace the engine in the van! Needless to say, we didn't do as many caches or as much herping as we'd planned. Oh well, I will be back for this one another time! I hope this makes you feel a little better about your self! LOL Eric BottomFeeder wrote: > - > H. H'billy, > > I think you just might have taken the only pics of the frozen Mina Sauk > Falls that are likely to be seen this year. I was so intrigued by your pics, > I thought I'd try the adventure for myself today. An adventure that can only > be entitled 'Dumb City Boy'. > > Loaded a bunch of Ironton area caches into GPXSonar, charged up the GPS, > loaded TaumSauk area maps into the pda (with caches as 'Markers'), checked > out the weather forecast, packed up the camera gear, and headed south from > STL. > > The drive all the way down to and thru Ironton was fine. Turned on to CC and > even it was clear. Proceeded up CC to the fork where you bear right to head > into TS Mtn S.P. CC is cleared if you stay on it and bear left at the fork > and head up by the Lookout Tower. The road into the park looks like it > hasn't seen a plow since winter started. And it looks like they got 4-5" of > snow Wed nite and Thur when we were only getting an inch here in STL. But it > looks like several sets of tire tracks are heading up the road into the > park, so how bad can it be? (Uh-oh...does ya see what's coming? :) ) > > I stop at the fork and look down the road into the park.......and look > again...and again. Do I...or don't I? Decision time. Two voices in my head > telling me 2 different things....... > - Voice #1, the calm sensible one telling me..."Don't do it. You'll be > s-o-r-r-y!" > - Voice #2, the macho 'Dumb City Boy' one telling me..."Oh c'mon...ya just > drove a hundred miles to get here. Ya gonna let a little snow stop ya now? > You know you won't get another shot at this." > > Keeping in mind that I'm not driving an SUV.....am in a sporty little front > wheel drive thing, guess which one of the two voices won out? You got > it....'DCB'. I turn down the road into the park.....mistake #1. But the > going isn't *too* bad as long as I keep moving, if somewhat slowly. As I > approach the sign announcing entrance into the park, I see a fairly steep > hill (given the conditions) ahead of me and get cold feet (figuratively > speaking, of course :) ). And stop right in front of the sign. > > Again faced with 2 choices...try and continue up the hill til I can find a > 'safe' area to turn around. "But what if I can't get up the hill and start > sliding back down? Who knows what I'll slide back down into." Not a very > appealing choice. > > But don't worry, there's a worse choice. And I'm in full DCB mode now, and > choose to try and turn around right where I'm at. Mistake #2! Though the > road is *mostly* flat where I'm sitting, and the shoulder has only a fairly > gentle slope to it, there's still the matter of 4-5" of snow sitting on top > of the pre-existing ice. Needless to say, the end result is not pretty...I > wind up with my front bumper almost kissing the 'Welcome to TS Mtn S.P.' > sign. And though I come close to getting out of the jam on my own, 'close is > no cigar'...as the saying goes. > > Anyway, to make a short story long.....I finally hike back up to CC, and > down it quite a way til I'm able to flag down one of the locals, and with > his help and a phone call to the local towing service, eventually I get out. > > So, as I sit here now all warm and toasty, I appreciate your pics even more. > Outstanding job of getting them! > > I don't know how many of the list members have done the caches in this area, > but there's certainly enough in the vicinity to make a good group > cache........when it's warmer and drier. :) > > -= Russ =- (aka BottomFeeder, aka Dirty Bartholomew Vane, and > now....aka 'Dumb City Boy') > > -----Original Message----- > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Ponder > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 06:40 > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Mina Sauk > > The hike is around 3 miles round trip. The trailhead is not at the tower any > more. It starts at the highest point parking. > > The gravel roads in the area were all ready for sled riding (I posted a > picture of the road into my newest cache GCHM37...blatant plug). Although > large portions of the trail and all of the rocks at the base of the falls > were ice-covered, I thought the reward very much outweighed the risk. I > think I'm disappointed in the pictures because I didn't seem to capture the > awesome scene...but reducing great views to 5x7 makes capturing the moment > difficult even with the best equipment. What I really needed on this trip > was a wide angle. > > I'm guessing that a combination of wet and cold weather will cause Mina Sauk > to freeze fairly often. I've also been told that Rocky Falls can freeze in > times of extreme cold, but that would take a long, bitter cold stretch. I > talked to a Rocky Falls local, and he had never seen it frozen and doubted > if the moving water would freeze...but Mina Sauk shows it very well can. > > Greg Ponder...The Hairy Hillbilly > > **************************************************************************** > Our WebPage! Http://WWW.GeoStL.com > Mail List Info. //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=geocaching > Mail List FAQ's: //www.freelists.org/help/questions.html > **************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list: > send an email to geocaching-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the > Subject field **************************************************************************** Our WebPage! 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