I think a good next step would be to invite them to go on a geocaching trip with some of us. This might make them understand what we are doing better. If people think this would be a good idea, I will ask them and ask them for some days when tney could do it. Perhaps next Saturday's adventure could be somewhere around Rolla where they could go with us. I know Randy lives in Rolla and suspects Nancy does too. Jim Bensman New Email Address jbensman1@xxxxxxxxxxx **Glenn STL Caching Info: //www.freelists.org/webpage/geocaching Our WebPage! //www.freelists.org/webpage/geocaching