I like the idea, and since he is not in the board or the comite of the
awards its ok to nominate it, honestly this kind of implicit and
nebulous meanings don't work to me.
On 10/3/19 2:00 AM, Jake D. Parsons wrote:
I originally posted this to foundation-list@xxxxxxxxx and trying to
distribute it as much as possible.
Original text:
Greetings;
I attached a text file with the text that gave me my basis for this
accusation
from Neil McGovern' s blog: Liberal Musings.
I call for Neil McGovern to step down from his position as the Executive
Director of the GNOME Foundation for the betterment of software freedom,
basic civility in the community, ethics, and professionalism between the
community and the world at large.
It is one thing for someone to not have reading comprehension skills and it
is a magnitude of another to personally jump on the bandwagon to defame,
criminally libel, and outright lie, about what RMS said in the infamous
letter. It is unethical and unprofessional for someone in an Executive
position to do so. Let me be very clear: the words used and how they were
used in this campaign against RMS are grounds for him to sue a lot of people
if he so choosed to do so. His opponents lacking his ethical rigour know he
won' t and mistake his virtue as a weakness and used criminal and low brow
methods against him. Very sore losers since they obviously cannot argue him.
First this is what Neil McGovern wrote:
"This came after the president of the FSF made some pretty reprehensible
remarks saying that the “most plausible scenario is that [one of Epstein’s
underage victims] presented themselves as entirely willing” while being
trafficked."
This poor victim was already trafficked Neil McGovern (your actions were so
despicable I refuse to call you with any civil salutation), Epstein was
prostituting her. Two separate crimes but you apparently picked one to care
about, the one that brings outrage and people stop analyzing what you are
saying as a whole based on emotion. As anyone who has lived on the streets,
or worked with street people knows, Mr.Stallman was perfectly right in what
he was saying.
This can be easily observed by driving to a red light district and pretending
to be a client. There is also the thing called Stockholm Syndrome where
kidnapped females after release sympathize and defend their kidnappers.
Romans and the Sabines ~2, 600 years ago. It happens over and over where the
coerced is presented as willing. It is a very documented, heavily researched,
fact that is recognized from psychology too social workers and your outrage
of someone pointing out the obvious in the know only shows it is you at fault
for misinterpretation of easy adult reading and then going overboard in your
reaction.
McGovern should have consulted prostitutes, rape victims, kidnap victims,
psychologists, people who have experience and professional credentials in the
subject matter before he unethically and unprofessionally threatens another
organization with "...Richard to step down from FSF and GNU and let others
continue in his stead. Should this not happen in a timely manner, then I
believe that severing the historical ties between GNOME, GNU and the FSF is
the only path forward." That is blackmail based on libel. Two for two in
criminal activity here and this is the Executive Director of GNOME? The
resignation of RMS only makes a point more solid; that Neil McGovern used his
professional office to further a personal, or corporate, the source only
known to him or insiders, agenda using a flash point that had a good amount
of social pressure as leverage. Or that his reading comprehension skills are
so low, acted rashly based on subjective pressures instead of objective
analysis makes him incompetent for the position. I find that he had an
anti-software freedom agenda and is willing to use dirty and unethical tricks
to be less insulting than the other which implies stupidity. Either way it is
a remarkable display of unethical and unprofessional behaviour that should
not be allowed in something as far reaching in the GNOME Foundation and the
cause of the effect does not matter as much as removing the instigator. Neil
McGovern with the aid of those he supported sullied the reputation of the
GNOME Foundation and the community amongst the sober minded who usually are a
silent majority. No, Neil McGovern and the rest of the loud mouthed squeaky
wheels you do not speak for the majority. Especially when your actions weaken
the cause and hands our hard won freedoms to proprietary tyrants.
Below I' am going to quote the disputed letter in full so people like Neil
McGovern in positions of responsibility but act like dirty politicians have
less chance to manipulate text for their own selfish goals:
"The announcement of the Friday event does an injustice to Marvin Minsky:
“deceased AI ‘pioneer’ Marvin Minsky (who is accused of assaulting one of
Epstein’s victims)”
The injustice is in the word “assaulting”. The term “sexual assault” is so
vague and slippery that it facilitates accusation inflation: taking claims
that someone did X and leading people to think of it as Y, which is much
worse than X.
The accusation quoted is a clear example of inflation. The reference reports
the claim that Minsky had sex with one of Epstein’s harem. (See
https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/9/20798900/marvin-minsky-jeffrey-epstein-sex-trafficking-island-court-records-unsealed.)
Let’s presume that was true (I see no reason to disbelieve it).
The word “assaulting” presumes that he applied force or violence, in some
unspecified way, but the article itself says no such thing.
Only that they had sex.
We can imagine many scenarios, but the most plausible scenario is that she
presented herself to him as entirely willing. Assuming she was being coerced
by Epstein, he would have had every reason to tell her to conceal that from
most of his associates.
I’ve concluded from various examples of accusation inflation that it is
absolutely wrong to use the term “sexual assault” in an accusation.
Whatever conduct you want to criticize, you should describe it with a
specific term that avoids moral vagueness about the nature of the criticism."
Assault is an act of force through violence. Once again a professional with
experience and credentials will tell you that RMS was right. Assault involves
physical violence such as using physical force. I recommend looking up Susan
Ford, AKA Brice Taylor. There is videos of her online speaking and her book
Thanks For The Memories. This is one concrete example of a pattern. She was
prostituted by the elite but she never says she was "assaulted" or by the
rapers. These girl victims are trained to seduce so it does not take much
thought to assume they will present themselves as willing when their fear of
punishment/or programming is far greater than what some armchair moralist
thinks it should be in his chair far away and disconnected. If those they are
told to deceive and seduce do not use violence then it is not assault, and
saying so hides a far more serious and heinous crime. A victim of the kind
Epstien served collaborates what RMS said in his email, a victim of the very
same people and group that pimped their mind controlled minion to Marvin
Minsky to. Following the twisted views of Neil McGovern and those attacking
RMS; Susan Ford, and all the victims of Epstien and his kind somehow defend
Epstien and his kind when telling of their experience. This is evil and
gross, but I' am not the one saying this. I' am defending truth from the
mouth of survivors of this horrific Satanic practice of the Elite as RMS
valiantly did also. What kind of twisted, evil, malicious, minds, take the
experiences of real world victims and use them as a human shield for
politics'? Here is a case of the accusers being worse than what they falsely
accuse the innocent of being.
The attack on RMS is the most relevant example that evil uses perception to
hide evil. Because of the lies, libel, and all the other shit slinging around
about what RMS said who knew from previous experience donkeys follow carrots,
that it is important words are used carefully and especially before you
accuse someone of horrendous things. Unless you are Neil McGovern, then you
just abuse your important position of an important organization and
criminally bear false witness stating you must do evil as a good steward of
the community. Any honest and capable lawyer will recognize that RMS
advocating the proper use of words was a prudent move and perfectly legal,
and of course it was moral as it is highly immoral to accuse someone of
supporting the rape of minors.
Luckily we do not have to pay exorbitant amounts of money to hear what a
lawyer would say as we can consult a law dictionary ourselves. Here is the
definition of assault:
https://thelawdictionary.org/assault/
As can be seen Neil McGovern' s accusations of what RMS said are not true in
the text itself and not true through legal definitions. This is a very bad
reflection upon GNOME to involve itself into partisan politics which the
organization has no role in and the basis to do so is an apparent attack to
weaken the resolve of the communities attack from proprietary attackers by
taking out a long standing leader, through deceit. The leader upon whose work
the GNOME Foundation rests. As honesty is essential to freedom the use of
deceiving tactics is a betrayal of the essence of software freedom itself and
civilization.
The last sentence in the letter that has caused so much turmoil one would
think is common sense in a 'technical' community. RMS is saying to avoid
fuzzy logic, hyperbole, subjectivity, emotional control words the useful
idiots respond too. When a conduct is described through vague terms, or
misused outside of their definition, this obscurity lessons the immorality of
the crime. It leads to situations where the petty and unscrupulous use this
fuzziness as a weapon. Also, when you lesson the immorality of a crime you do
injustice to the victim. Once again political extremists have used real
victims as human shields for their cause and every time one does that the
real victim' s voice is taken a little less serious.
The question is why is an employee of Google the Executive Director of the
GNOME Foundation? This is a conflict of interest, and one thing RMS never did
that Google did was hand over personal data so that thousands, if not more,
of Chinese were incarcerated. RMS fought for the privacy and software rights
of all and Google sold them to governments so they could operate and make a
profit. Or the heavy amount of censorship Google willingly participates in
while one of their employees plays the talking head with, "One of the GNOME
Foundation’s strategic goals is to be an exemplary community in terms of
diversity and inclusion. " So when an employee of Google tries to play a
moral righteous tune it sounds badly out of tune.
It is sad that a portion of the technical community has forsaken a love of
truth and decided to follow the whimsical fashions of the social thought
police.
I hope for a correction of a mistake is made and the GNOME Foundation removes
the Executive Director Neil McGovern or that Neil McGovern resigns himself.
If not it is decidingly in the favour of the observation that the GNOME
Foundation supports a radical anti-freedom advocate who is using his office
to further an anti-free software agenda.
