I won't be able to make it tonight as planned, but I should be able to make it next week. Have been talking to two good friends, one really wants to be a "geek" but needs some help getting there, one just wants to learn more about computers. I plan on bringing them with me to future meetings. Basically they want to volunteer their time in return for learning more about computers/Linux. Jay Schlatter Manager Information Services Goodwill Industries of Michiana, Inc <http://www.goodwill-ni.org/> (574) 472-7383