Re: [foxboro] Please don't use I/A Series 4.x for production - was: Exchange Solaris Workstation for Venix Foxboro I/A any version!

  • From: "Alex Johnson" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ("alexander.johnson")
  • To: "foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 01:50:02 +0000

Re: (Someone sent a Hahaha.., I don't understand him!)
That was in response to my message sent in response to your garbled message. I 
wrote:

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    Sorry to make you cuss.

He was laughing at what I wrote.

Regards,

Alex


Alex Johnson
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Industry Business
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From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of 
ION SCHIOPU
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 1:55 PM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] Please don't use I/A Series 4.x for production - was: 
Exchange Solaris Workstation for Venix Foxboro I/A any version!

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Hi Marcel,
I understand your frustration, but I never advocated to use "vintage" equipment 
in the plants. That was a personal request.
Please, if you have time comment on the message I sent to Scott. I never 
implied to use "vintage" equipment for production.

This is what I sent to Scott a few minutes before I've got your message:

"Hi Scott,

I converted a RS3 Rosemont DCS with 19 controllers to Foxboro I/A DCS with 19 
controllers.

I converted all RS3 control blocks, including the Sequence Control Blocks!

I obtained all 19 Saveall diskettes, and then I used my Foxboro I/A ver. 4.3 to 
create all compounds and blocks. Once loaded in Foxboro I/A, with no errors, I 
did a save all to 19 diskettes for each Control Processor!

Now, my Foxboro I/A ver. 4.3 DCS, which I bought it from Foxboro many years 
ago, is broken. (I have all software on the hard drive, but the hard drive 
controller is broken!). I am looking forward to getting my system working so 
that I could do more foreign DCS conversions to Foxboro I/A.

(Someone sent a Hahaha.., I don't understand him!)

So, if you need a conversion from another DCS or PLC to Foxboro I/A, I could 
help if I have a Foxboro I/A running system.
(Saveall could be uploaded to a Galaxy/ArchestrA, and just update it to the new 
software currently used in many plants!)

Thank you for your feedback,

ION.

P.S. I hope this email is not skewed by this site manager! Alex Johnson's 
message I received was skewed also, why???!!!! WOW!

Ion Schiopu, MEE, P. Eng. - Electrical Engineer
Phone: 1 (403) 241 7752
Cell: 1(587) 917 5351
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Ion Schiopu, MEE, P. Eng. - Electrical Engineer
Phone: 1 (403) 241 7752
Cell: 1(587) 917 5351
________________________________
From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of 
Marcel Rameil <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:36 AM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [foxboro] Please don't use I/A Series 4.x for production - was: 
Exchange Solaris Workstation for Venix Foxboro I/A any version!

Dear list users,
With all respect, I'd like to point out here that the current version of the 
Foxboro DCS is Control Core Services (CCS, formerly known as "I/A Series") 
v9.5, which has been released in Sept. 2019.

We are releasing this year:

* CCS v9.6 with security enhancements and software support for the new, very 
compact and cost effective Edge I/O product range, - hardware release planned 
for late 2023). Release date: Now, while we speak.
* CCS v9.7 with the integration of a new electrical controller into the Foxboro 
DCS, combining power and process automation into one operational experience. 
Release date: Late 2022 or early 2023
* CCS v9.8 with support for a new Windows operating system coming probably end 
of 2023.

According to our lifecycle product phase listing (to be found on our Global 
Customer Support website at
https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%25C3%25BFtps%253A%252F%252Fpasupport.schneider-electric.com%252Fcontent%252FDocuments%252FLifecycle%252Fia%252FFoxb%26amp%3Bdata&amp;data=05%7C01%7Calexander.johnson%40se.com%7C7acb2a5324424c727fd208da442e1c22%7C6e51e1adc54b4b39b5980ffe9ae68fef%7C0%7C0%7C637897262206028587%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=pZntupkUzMGlEJO%2F2FO1brHrHpperrJuh8btTfQSbp0%3D&amp;reserved=0%7C01%7C%7Cee5e9c8389ff43f608d908da43fdb73e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637897054239410162%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdataÿeNuo1624%2BCWrYGnw05wXwBOa0Rqq0nbXZ2LyDHpKk%3D&amp;reservedÿoro-DCS-Lifecycle-Product-Phase-Listing.pdf)
 all I/A Series 4.x versions have been in LIFETIME phase (means: support on a 
best effort basis) since April 2001 and they have been moved to OBSOLETE (means 
no support) since June 2016. So, this is software from the early 1990's. While 
this is eventually interesting for a museum or for some historic computing 
aficionados, we strongly recommend to not use this software for any production 
environment. It will be extremely difficult to get hardware that's even capable 
to install this, there is absolutely no cyber security with these products and 
performance will be very limited, there is no support whatsoever from the 
vendor other than helping everyone to migrate on something current.

We still do have those migration paths, a database from a controller from the 
early 90's can still run on a current controller and will behave very similar 
if not identical after being loaded. A specific team is specialized to convert 
any existing electronic format for DCS software into something that a 
contemporary Foxboro DCS with old or new control editor understands and can run 
with - we see no need to maintain a vintage hardware and software that's 
impossible to support and maintain in a professional environment in order to 
migrate any competitor's system to a Foxboro DCS.

Ion, please don't take it personal, but I want to point out here, to this 
audience, that the approach using vintage equipment is one eventually possible 
option, but the clearly preferred path forward works with current, supported 
hardware and software built for professionals that need reliable operations, 
minimized risks and solid return on invest, and which are absolutely database 
compatible with previous generations of the Foxboro I/A Series system and the 
Foxboro DCS (as we call it today). Still the latest system fully supports 
coexistence and collaboration with a wide range of prior versions of the system 
in one common real-time name space and runtime, which is a clear differentiator 
against competitor's offers.

With the releases listed above (and with others on the Control Software
level) we prepare the system technologically for our future generations of DCS 
offers with only one ultimate goal: To keep the investment of our customers 
alive for the decades to come in a reliable, secure and fully supported manner. 
This is our mission and this is what we do.

Everyone, let me know if you have questions on our product strategy and I'm 
more than happy to have a conversation.

Liebe Grüße -
Marcel Rameil
Global Offer Manager Control Software
Product Marketing, Industry Business, Process Automation Schneider Electric








-----Original Message-----
From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of 
ION SCHIOPU
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 19:47
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] Exchange Solaris Workstation for Venix Foxboro I/A any 
version!

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Hi Scott,
I knew that but my interest is at least to have a DCS at home.

Thank you anyway, but I still need that Venix platform for me! (Foxboro I/A 
ver. 4.3 that I can use for teaching CONTROL to my students!)

ION.

Ion Schiopu, MEE, P. Eng. - Electrical Engineer
Phone: 1 (403) 241 7752

________________________________
From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of 
Ricker William <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 6:20 AM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [foxboro] Exchange Solaris Workstation for Venix Foxboro I/A any 
version!

Well, Scott ...

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-----Original Message-----
From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of 
Scott Landry
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 6:54 AM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] Exchange Solaris Workstation for Venix Foxboro I/A any 
version!

Ion,

Venix (by Venturecom) ran on the following hardware platforms;

AP10, AP20 and WP10, WP20, WP30 (boot hosted) PW-OE, PW-NB, PW-FB, PW-C, PW-SSI

Are you starting a Foxboro I/A museum ?

Scott Landry   |   Schneider Electric Systems, U.S.A. |  Process Automation
|  Foxboro DCS Principal Site Service Engineer
Email: scott.landry@xxxxxx | Address: 11550 Newcastle Drive Suite 140, 70816 
Baton Rouge, LA, United States GCS Center: Process Automation: Global Customer 
Support (schneider-electric.com) GCS Phone: +1 866 746 6477

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-----Original Message-----
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ION SCHIOPU
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 8:30 PM
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Subject: [foxboro] Exchange Solaris Workstation for Venix Foxboro I/A any 
version!

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Hi List,
I have a new SUN Ultra 24 Workstation and I need to exchange it for a Venix 
Foxboro I/A any version. My version 4.3 is broken!

Please contact me if you have the Venix version to make this exchange. I could 
load any software you have, before I ship you, my workstation.

Thank you,

(Hopefully this message is not rejected by this site!!!)

ION.

Ion Schiopu, MEE, P. Eng. - Electrical Engineer
Phone: 1 (403) 241 7752




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