We too have some "legacy" IE32s for FBMs and CPs, but never really used them for WPs/AWs in my plant (other plants here have done so, however). The 51F is a desktop (horizontal) case, not a pizza box like a B or D (the F is taller) but with a slightly smaller footprint. We have started using a 31" square by (roughly) 7' tall equipment cabinet for WPs. Hoffman, Rittal, et al make them; it's a pretty standard size. You can get all kinds of accessories for them. I believe Foxboro offers something like this for the 200-series FBMs as well, though the ones we've gotten in another plant we have had to modify to a) have a place for the fieldbus fiber hubs that they want you to buy, and 2) to put bigger wireway in it. I wish Foxboro (and other DCS vendors) would talk to more customers about basic ergonomic/feasibility issues before they decide to design and build new hardware. Experienced I/E folks often spot these problems on first glance at a new cabinet or field termination assembly. This is particularly true when using COTS components which themselves were not designed to be integrated into an industrial environment. It can't be too hard to put together a 3D CAD model or actual mockup of new gear and show it around. Corey Clingo BASF Corp. brad.s.wilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent by: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 12/08/2004 09:12 AM Please respond to foxboro To: foxboro cc: Subject: [foxboro] Physical layout question This may seem rather silly, but I'm trying to get an idea of how users have their I/A hardware installed ... ie, plastic IE32's, ME24's, free-standing 19" racks & shelves, etc. We have a very old system (one of the first) and much of our equipment is in IE32's. When we upgraded from AP20 to AW51B, we put those in there too, but I'm not happy with it ... too crowded. We're about to upgrade a WP30 to WP51F and my question is ... what type of case has the 51F? Will it even fit in a IE32, or is it a mini-tower? I'd like to build a case for creating a locked room where I can place all the higher processors in open racks so the cabling is accessible ... rather than our IE32's which are generally in unsecure traffic areas. Thank you. Brad Wilson ExxonMobil Chemical Co Edison Synthetics Plant 732-321-6115 732-321-6177 fax Brad.S.Wilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave