Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but If you set the OSV at 3 pct or higher for 4-20 ma inputs you will not get an IOBAD on the high end. If this is true, I thought you might want to be aware of it. Loyd Greer Great Lakes Chem >>> OBrieC1@xxxxxxxxxx 10/07/03 04:42PM >>> Tim, You can configure a PIDA to go into Hold when it detects an error in the measurement source, using the CEOPT parameter. If you set BADOPT in the AIN to 0, then an out-of-range input will not force the measurement bad, but will be picked up as an error by the PIDA block. BADOPT 0 in an AIN will still detect a bad input channel or FBM fault. cheers, Con -----Original Message----- From: Lowell, Tim: [mailto:Tim.C.Lowell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, 8 October 2003 5:51 AM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [foxboro] IOBAD List, We are going through an alarm rationalization process using the EEMUA = standards, and the one aspect of the Foxboro DCS alarm system that we = are having the most trouble dealing with is IOBAD for AIN blocks. =20 We get a lot of nuisance IOBAD alarms during upsets that are not really = indicative of hardware failures. They are really Out of Range = conditions. The transmitter and FBM are working fine, but the signal is = either below or above the configured range. We have BADOPT set to 3, = the default, which means Out of Range High or Low or Bad FBM =3D BAD. = What we need is to be able to differentiate from an Out of Range = condition and an actual transmitter failure, meaning the wire is cut or = the transmitter loses power, i.e. no signal. When we get an Out of = Range condition, we want to get only an Out of-Range Alarm, set the BAD = bit which in turn puts any connected PIDA in HOLD or Manual, and not get = an IOBAD alarm. When the transmitter actually fails, we want the BAD = bit to be set which puts any connected PIDA in HOLD or Manual and to get = only an IOBAD alarm. Unfortunately, BAD and Out Of Range seem to be = inextricably linked in the I/A. Using the BADOPT parameter, it doesn't = look like you can configure the system to set the BAD bit during an Out = Of Range condition without also triggering an IOBAD alarm. Am I = interpreting this correctly or am I missing something? Has anybody else on the list gone through the EEMUA alarm = rationalization process? What do you do with IOBAD alarms? Tim Lowell Control Systems Engineer ConocoPhillips, Trainer Refinery Phone: 610-364-8362 Fax: 610-364-8211 Tim.C.Lowell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave