Alex, Thank you, that does help. I have rarely made any changes EXCEPT through the ICC ... partly out of fear of mistyping something and having a shutdown on my hands. I use getpars ALOT to read selected values. I know that if I use ICCDriver (or whatever it's called), that's just like using the ICC. Will either setpars or omset modify the configuration database? Or just the work file? In other words, if I do a setpars or omset and then go into the ICC, will I see the change? Or would I need to upload to see it? Brad Wilson Process Control Engineer ExxonMobil Chemical Co Edison Synthetics Plant 732-321-6115 732-321-6177 fax Brad.S.Wilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx "Johnson, Alex P \(IPS\)" <alex.johnson@ To ips.invensys.c <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> om> cc Sent by: foxboro-bounce Subject @freelists.org Re: [foxboro] Global parameter changes 09/12/06 11:03 AM Please respond to foxboro@freeli sts.org CP data is stored in the following locations: * CP's RAM * Checkpoint file * Workfile Currently, there are two techniques for changing parameters in a CP: 1) Changes that are made to the CP RAM and 2) Changes that are made to the CP RAM, the workfile, and the checkpoint file as a set The former approach uses tools like: * /opt/fox/bin/tools/omsetimp * /opt/fox/bin/tools/setpars These tools do not automatically update the workfile or trigger a checkpoint. The latter approach uses the ICC Driver Task to make changes. It updates all three locations automatically. The mechanism used by omsetimp is a one-shot set. It moves one value to the CP at a time and is slow. It can change any data type so long as the parameter is "settable" and unsecured. The mechanism used by setpars is the db_install task in the CP (getpars uses db_query) and it can handle much more data in a communication session. Generally, for lots of changes, I would expect setpars to be faster. Its restrictions are documented in the man file in /opt/fox/bin/tools. The ICC Driver Task can change anything. Does this help? Regards, Alex Johnson Invensys Systems, Inc. 10900 Equity Drive Houston, TX 77041 713.329.8472 (voice) 713.329.1700 (fax) 713.329.1600 (switchboard) alex.johnson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of brad.s.wilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:14 AM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [foxboro] Global parameter changes I've used getpars to view parameters globally and setpars to change them individually, but I'd like to make some global changes and would like some input on the best way to accomplish this. For example, globally changing the BAG (bad alarm group) for all GDEVs. Would there be different techniques for different types of parameters (boolean, integer, real, string) ? I know that some parameters are not visible to setpars but can be touched by omsetimp or icconfig ... is that a factor ? Brad Wilson Process Control Engineer ExxonMobil Chemical Co Edison Synthetics Plant 732-321-6115 732-321-6177 fax Brad.S.Wilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave