To All, I again, want to encourage list members to use the Foxboro Documentation available online at: http://ips.csc.invensys.com/ if at all possible. This is a great source of information from "The Horses Mouth". If it doesn't give you the answers or you can't find what you are looking for contact them at: mailto:ips.csc.web@xxxxxxxxxxxx Recognizing that it is possible that many of you may not have access to their website, I am including an example of a working Common Alarm Group (CAG) Configuration File from our system. As mentioned in the previous note, you must reboot affected workstations for changes to take effect. In this case, the commgrp.cfg file would need to be copied to 04WP02-4 and all 3 workstations would need to be rebooted!! In the example below 04WP03 would be able to ACK, CLEAR ALARMS, SILENCE HORN for both 04WP02 and 04WP04 because it is a member of both groups. 04WP02 could do the same but only with alarms in common with 04WP03, not 04WP04. 04WP04 could do the same but only with alarms in common with 04WP03, not 04WP02. It should also be understood that Compound Group Devices must be configured to send alarms to all WP's in the same CAG group. In the example below for CELL1G1CAG Compounds would need to send to 04WP02 "AND" 04WP03. For CELL1G2CAG, Compounds would need to send to 04WP03 "AND" 04WP04. One problem with this configuration is that picking the "Alarm" on top menu bar of a DM or Foxview opens the Alarm Manager and issues a "Horn Silence" to both CAG Group WP's. In the configuration below, a pick from 04WP03 silences the horns on both 04WP02 and 04WP04. That may or may not be desireable. Example of CAG File # Common Alarm Group (CAG) Configuration File # # (CAD Redirection) # WP CAG Backup BLK TOP USER CAG # LBUG NAME1 LBUG DTL PRIO DISP NAME2 04WP02 CELL1G1CAG ------ ------ ------ ------ ------------ 04WP03 CELL1G1CAG ------ ------ ------ ------ CELL1G2CAG 04WP04 ------------ ------ ------ ------ ------ CELL1G2CAG Below are excerpts copied directly from Foxboro's website as an example of the information available there. Workstation Alarm Management - Foxboro Document (B0193RV)Rev D Section 2. Alarm Subsystem Configuring Common Alarm Groups You must initially run /usr/fox/alarms/CAGinit to create the configuration file for CAGs (/usr/fox/alarm/commgrp.cfg). To run CAGinit Type: cd /usr/fox/alarms (on a UNIX workstation) cd \usr\fox\alarms (on a Windows NT workstation) Type: CAGinit (on a UNIX workstation) sh CAGinit.ksh (on a Windows NT workstation) The commgrp.cfg file then contains a list of all workstations throughout the system and the information for these capabilities: CAG-related common horn silence CAG-related common horn mute CAG-related alarm clear (using the CLR ALM button) Workstation alarm recovery Process display call-up ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- NOTE: A workstation need not be a member of a Common Alarm Group to configure WP alarm backup or process display call-up. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- The following information may be optionally configured for every workstation listed in the configuration file: The name of the CAG with which the workstation is associated. The name of a second CAG with which the workstation is associated. The letterbug of a backup workstation from which to recover the current alarm list and annunciator panel LED settings, should a reboot be required. (Reboot clears alarm information.) The names of DMs to which the following alarm displays may be redirected when accessed from an alarm display: Block Detail Display, top priority alarm display, and user display. Each workstation's alarm alert database initially contains default attributes. These attribute in the init.user file that affects Common Alarm Groups is: Attribute Default Clear alarm button option (CLR_OPT) Clear the alarm from the database only on the workstation initiating the action. The associated annunciator light or any control block is unaffected. Tom VandeWater Control Systems Developer/Analyst Dow Corning Corporation Carrollton KY USA -----Original Message----- From: William C. Ricker [mailto:wcricker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:28 PM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] Annunciator Keyboards - CAG When last I used them, the edits to commgrp.cfg did exactly what you describe. Don't forget that both stations need a reboot to 'install' the edits, though. William C. Ricker FeedForward, Inc. Marietta, GA, USA wcricker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 770-426-4422 -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jaime Claramunt R. (Inforsa) Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:56 PM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [foxboro] Annunciator Keyboards - CAG hey List... I have 2 WPs (51) with 1 annunciators keyboards each...and I'm trying to operate them as one... I mean, when an alarm arises, the horn is activated, and I want to be able to mute both of them when I acknowledge it (or press silence bouton). I've been told that CAGinit, and editting commgrp.cfg with group definition, does the job... but it's not working. Does someone have a solution for this... thanks in advance BR Jaime Claramunt Automation Engineer INFORSA Paper Mill - Chile _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. 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