Tom, Good point. You still have to send the alarms to all destinations from where you want to view them. The beauty with 8.0 is you can send your Unit 1 alarms to your Unit 2 workstations, your Unit 2 alarms to your Unit 2 workstations, etc. You can then set up an AM on your Unit 1 workstation to view your Unit 1 alarms. You can then set up a different AM on your Unit 1 workstation to view your Unit 2 alarms (even though they have never been sent to the Unit 1 workstations). No way to view both Unit 1 and Unit 2 alarms on the same AM however without sending both Unit 1 and 2 alarms to the workstation running the AM. You can also switch an AM from viewing Unit 1 alarms to viewing Unit 2 alarms at runtime. Just configure a button to run the set_alarm_source command. 8.0 AMS (Alarm Management System) also has a lot of other interesting features, such as dynamic sorting. At runtime you can resort your CAD or other AM displays (except the MRA and AHD). It uses the same sort options as are available with SORT_CFG in init.user (RAPT, APT, AT, AP, T). In additon a PT sort has been added. This is selectable through the match/filter (now a tabbed match / filter / sort) dialog box. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of tom.vandewater@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:35 PM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] Alarm manager documentation Stan, I haven't noticed that anyone has mentioned using the Common Alarm Group to meet your needs. Even before we centralized our control room we used this functionality to allow cross-functional ability to acknowledge, silence horn, and clear alarms at two or more workstations. Here is an example of what is possible with this tool. In Area One of a plant that is controlled from one control room: Operating Seat 1 controls Process 1, 2, and 3 using 01WP01 Operating Seat 2 controls Process 4, 5, and 6 using 01WP02 Alarms are sent from all compounds controlling Processes 1-6 to GRP 1 Which contain both 01WP01 and 01WP02 as GRP 1 Devices. This means that any alarm in Processes 1-6 will show up at, and audibly alarm at both 01WP01 and 01WP02. (If you want 01WP01 to receive only Process 1-3 alarms, but 01WP02 to receive Process 1-6 alarms, don't include 01WP01 as a device in Process 4-6 compounds) Edit the file: /usr/fox/alarms/commgrp.cfg on both 01WP01 and 01WP02 To look like the following: # Common Alarm Group (CAG) Configuration File # # (CAD Redirection) # WP CAG Backup BLK TOP USER CAG # LBUG NAME1 LBUG DTL PRIO DISP NAME2 01WP01 AREA1------- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------------ 01WP02 AREA1------- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------------ And then reboot both 01WP01 and 01WP02 With no filtering applied in the Alarm Manager you will be able to see all alarms, (Process 1-6), on either Alarm Manager and can silence both 01WP01 and 01WP02 alarm horns from a single pick from either station. If you acknowledge an alarm from the Alarm Manager on 01WP01 it will show acknowledged on both 01WP01 and 01WP02. If you clear an alarm from the Alarm Manager on 01WP02 it will clear on both 01WP01 and 01WP02. If you set up an Alarm Manager filter on 01WP01 to exclude Process 4-6 compounds then you wouldn't see those alarms on 01WP01 but would continue to see Process 1-6 alarms on 01WP02. Is this the functionality you are looking for? If what you want is for all alarms from a failed workstation to be directed to another WP until the failed workstation is rebooted, you can configure SysDef to use 01WP02 as Backup WP for 01WP01 and 01WP01 as Backup WP for 01WP02. We have done this and it works well. The Device Manager recognizes when a Device fails and then uses this configuration to redirect all messages to the Backup WP. Tom VandeWater Control Systems Developer/Analyst Dow Corning Corporation Carrollton, KY USA -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of stan Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:10 AM To: Foxboro List Subject: [foxboro] Alarm manager documentation I geuss it's time to learn how this stuff works :-) Is there a good documentation that describes aalrm handling in general> We are using DM if it matters. --=20 U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote - Officials Cite 83% Turnout Despite Vietcong Terror=20 - New York Times 9/3/1967 =20 =20 _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. 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