Dirk, Some of our engineers love the Filter Option but I have removed a lot more of them than I've added. They do have their place but too many times I've found a .FTIM=1 or greater on a flow that is being used by a controller. The engineers think they have smoothed the controller operation when all they did was make the controller extremely unresponsive to changing process conditions. Now, off the soapbox! This made us pull our hair out for a while but we figured it out. When you use Filter Option, (FLOP=1), on an AIN block connected to an FBM point, (IOMOPT=1), the filter uses the .RAWC value as input and sends its output to the .MEAS which passes to the .PNT. In this case you see the .MEAS and .PNT follow each other. When using FLOP=1 and IOMOPT=2 the filter uses .MEAS as the input and sends its output to the .PNT and the .MEAS value is unfiltered and the .PNT is filtered. This is very confusing but I'm positive that is how it works at Ver. 6.2.1 that we are running. The way we tested was to hook up a 4-20ma source to an FBM input so we could easily and rapidly change the FBM input signal from 4 to 12 MA. Then it was obvious what was happening. We could see the .RAWC value change immediately from 12,800, (4MA), to 38,400, (12MA), but watched both the .MEAS and .PNT gradually change based on the filter time, (.FTIM), we entered. So, Dirk, the filter is probably being applied even though it is very difficult to tell, because both the .MEAS and .PNT are changing together. You should be able to change the .FTIM to a higher number and see a change in the amplitude of the oscillations though. You had .FTIM set at 0.50 which is half a minute. Hope this helps! Tom VandeWater Control System Developer/Analyst Dow Corning Corporation Carrollton, KY USA -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dirk Pauwels Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 7:28 AM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] Ain FLOP We have CP60, version 6.5.1 according to the station block. Tried checkpointing & exit, delete & undelete, delete & rebuild from scratch etc... the data is not filtered with iomopt at 1, rerouted to a new AIN block and IOMOPT = 2 it works. I don't get it????? >From: "Johnson, Alex (Foxboro)" <ajohnson@xxxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: Re: [foxboro] Ain FLOP >Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 07:21:12 -0400 > >It is supposed to work. Contact the CSC. > >What version of the CP are you running by the way - Check the STATION block >detail display. > >Regards, > >Alex Johnson >Invensys Process Systems >Invensys Systems, Inc. >10707 Haddington >Houston, TX 77043 >713.722.2859 (voice) >713.722.2700 (switchboard) >713.932.0222 (fax) >ajohnson@xxxxxxxxxxx > >-----Original Message----- >From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >Behalf Of Dirk Pauwels >Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 7:18 AM >To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [foxboro] Ain FLOP > >In an AIN block, if I set FLOP = 1 and Dtime = 0.50 the data gathered from >FBM channels (IOMOPT= 1) is not filtered, filtering does not work. If I >create an extra AIN block, IOMOPT = 2 and MEAS = first AINblock.PNT then >the > >filtering option works. I guess it's not possible to filter the data >directly or do I need to set another parameter? > >Thanks, > >Dirk Pauwels - DCS coordinator >Engineering dept. >Lawter International BVBA >An RSM Company >Ketenislaan 1c - Haven 1520 >B-9130 Kallo, Belgium >T. +32.(0)3.570.95.97/ Mob. +32.(0)497.428.300 >F. +32.(0)3.570.16.09 >E mail: dirk.pauwels@xxxxxxxxxx > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > > >_______________________________________________________________________ >This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process >Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at >your own risks. 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