You are correct. From my understanding of the naming controversy is this:
Because the team is called the Seminoles, it has taken on the mantle of the
actual tribes name. But, just because the Seminole tribe is fine with the name
does not mean that any other tribes are equally as happy.
The biggest issue is that the other teams use generic labels in their name,
with Washington being the most disliked, Atlanta for the arm gesture and song
and minor teams and schools that have derogatory names such as The Halfbreeds,
Junior Chiefs and the MUCH HATED girl teams called The Squaws (which translates
into whore or c*nt). There is a if push to have rivers, streams, locations and
that popular Squaw Valley change their name. This is much like the Frisco, TX
team changing to the Raccoons instead of the Coons.
There’s also the issue of non natives wearing regalia as a costume. This
crosses all tribes outlooks on showing honor thru dress and making fun of a
long standing tradition. More later.
David Townsley
On Nov 24, 2021, at 1:16 PM, Patrick Pennington ("aggiefnp")
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
David/Queso,
I seem to remember hearing recently, like after the World Series, that
the Seminole tribe was totally ok with Florida State and their
representation/use of the Seminole name. Is that correct or am I
hallucinating again?
Groad
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On Nov 24, 2021, at 11:36 AM, Edward Retta
<eretta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Wow! Thanks a lot David for all of this info.
As you know, I "traffic"in cultures and awareness training, but confess I
know nothing about native American cultures. Make that north of the Rio
Grande river. Ask me about Aztecs, Olmecs, Mayas, Teotihuancanos, and I can
be conversant if not fluent.
When it comes to controversies like the sports teams names, I am equally
dumbfounded, so your reply helps. Sometimes we dont know who to believe,
given our current state of culture wars, polarization and talking heads.
Most Mexican Americans like me are of mixed blood, part native, part
Spaniard. So, somewhere way back, my ancestors are also native to this
continent. I also highly recommend that movie, Apocalypto. It is one of my
favorites. Good to learn it is approved. And, IMHO pretty realistic. The
human sacrifice stone in that movie is a real thing and we saw it on our
tour of Mexico City (along with the Hennebergers and Jeff & Mary Ellen
Davis), in an active archelogical dig.
Someday, will tell you my personal cathartic moment at the Museum of
Anthropology in Mexico City in the 80s. As you may imagine, in Mexico they
embrace names like Aztec etc. No controversy there. From my armchair, seems
like a USA thing.
Thanks again, David! I always prefer real people to google and wicipedia.
Happy Thanksgiving and BTHO LSU!
Edward Retta
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crossculturecommunications.com
linkedin.com/in/edwardretta/
On Nov 24, 2021 01:08, David Townsley <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ed,
Powwows equate to gatherings. Most are gatherings to see other natives and
of course family. On this level it is like a class or family reunion.
Then there are the cultural powwows like last weekend. AT&T sponsored the
gathering at their plaza downtown. There were three native AT&T employees
that coordinated the event. This included setting up a dance competition,
having an area set up for vendors, getting a native color guard, giving out
cash awards for the competition, inviting a professional drum team from OK
to keep the beat for all of the events and serving free Indian tacos to
everyone.
They also brought in the jingle dancers who travel the U. S. and Canada
helping raise money and awareness of the indigenous girls and women who are
still being used as slaves with hundreds going missing annually.
Then there are the huge powwows that incorporates all aspects to their
gatherings. If you have Hulu, we highly recommend watching the first season
of Reservation Dogs. The cast members are all natives including an episode
with Wes Studi who is absolutely hysterical. Everything depicted on the show
is true to life of how many of them live day to day. There was a powwow in
OKC before a local team game that not only acknowledged the native culture,
but had the four kids on Res Dogs in attendance.
More later, but to answer your second question, Hawana and most all
indigenous people highly dislike the team names, especially Atlanta with the
tomahawk chop. They also despise the Lone Ranger remake for obvious reasons.
But they love Apocalipco by Mel Gibson because the lead is a local Comanche
boy from Lawton, OK.
David Townsley
On Nov 23, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Edward Retta
<eretta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
David,
Just what exactly is a pow wow? I thot it was a meeting, like a Loya Jerga
in Afghanistan. A meeting of the village elders. What's the etymology of the
term? Does it originate from English or some tribal language?
What does Hawana think about the Cleveland Indians, Washington football
team, FS Seminoles, Atlanta Braves and all that?
Genuinely curious.
Edward Retta
+1 214 394 3000 (GMT -5)
crossculturecommunications.com
linkedin.com/in/edwardretta/
On Nov 22, 2021 16:20, David Townsley <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hawana was in the women’s 60+ division.
Divisions for this powwow were:
Child 0-4
Child 5-12 (M & F separate)
Teen 13-18 (M & F separate)
Young Adult 18-25 (M & F separate)
Adult 25-59 (M & F separate)
Sr. Adult 60+ (M & F separate)
And a special division for this contest of Jingle Dancers.
There was also a healing dance.
A giving thanks to the Creator dance.
A giving thanks to Mother Earth dance.
A couples dance and an all age/sex/style dance for everyone.
The only dance I was allowed to do was the couples dance because I was
invited. Every other dance was either a private, religious or competitive
dance that required native heritage, style and regalia.
If any of this info is wrong, it’s only because this was my first powwow and
what I remembered on the way to downtown. There was also an induction
ceremony dance for a 14 month old girl who is a 4th generation dancer.
David Townsley
On Nov 22, 2021, at 1:21 PM, Edward Retta
<eretta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
OK, so what's her "division?"
And how many divisions are there?
Can non native Americans compete?
Edward Retta
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crossculturecommunications.com
linkedin.com/in/edwardretta/
On Nov 21, 2021 15:47, Patrick Pennington <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Most outstanding
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On Nov 21, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Dean & Mickey Brown
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Very cool
On Nov 20, 2021, at 8:37 PM, David Pointon <david.pointon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That’s terrific…
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On Nov 20, 2021, at 20:19, Stephen Sublett <ssublett77@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Awesome, congratulations!
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Congrats.
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Hawana took 1st place in her division. A nice $400 cash prize. Very proud of
her.
David Townsley
