[fhs-65] Re: Uijeongbu

  • From: donnakasch <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "donnakasch" for DMARC)
  • To: fhs-65@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 09:18:00 -0500

It was a great show ... both the movie and the TV series.DonnaSent from my 
Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: "Michael Brose(Redacted sender 
"no1knows47" for DMARC)" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 1/15/21  6:56 AM  
(GMT-05:00) To: fhs-65@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [fhs-65] Re: Uijeongbu 
        Yes, it was M*A*S*H that had me curious about the whereabouts of 
Uijeongbu.  I looked a few times on Google Earth, but each time the names were 
displayed in Korean.  Then just after after I sent the message I looked again 
and everything was in English, weird.  M*A*S*H was filmed in California.  Does 
Korea look anything like California?  The filming area was wiped out by a fire 
years ago.  I think all that remains there is a jeep and an ambulance, both 
burned.Mike
        
        
            
                
                
                    On Thursday, January 14, 2021, 07:23:47 PM CST, Steve 
<sfgrob@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
                
                
                
                
    Yup, a near north suburb of Seoul.  Been through there several
      times on the Metro, but have never stopped/set foot there.  The
      M*A*S*H* unit is no longer there.  What brought this to your
      attention?
    Stay safe, Steve
    
    On 01/14/2021 18:15, Michael Brose
      (Redacted sender no1knows47 for DMARC) wrote:
    
    
      
        Oh sure, now I looked again
          and it popped up north of Seoul.  Modern technology is just
          wonderful.
        
        
        Mike 
        
        
      
      
        
           On Thursday, January 14, 2021, 05:10:18 PM CST, Michael
            Brose <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
          
          
          
          
          
            
              
                
                  Steve, where is Uijeongbu located?  I
                    looked on Google Earth, but the names are all in
                    Korean and I don't read that language.
                  Thanks,
                  
                  
                  Mike
                  
                  
                
                
                  
                    
                       On Thursday, January 14, 2021, 05:00:07 PM
                        CST, Donna Ferraro
                        <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
                      
                      
                      
                      
                      
                        
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                              All
                                interesting to me (at least), Steve …
                                but then I’m a language nerd!
                              Thanks,
                              Donna
                                
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                                    Steve
                                    Sent: Thursday, January 14,
                                    2021 5:43 PM
                                    To: fhs-65@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                    Subject: [fhs-65] Re: Local
                                    dialects are fading?
                                
                                  
                                To the best of my knowledge, no.  My
                                  wife streams a lot of Korean programs
                                  and some of these are singing
                                  contests, somewhat akin to Americas
                                  Got Talent, The Voice, etc.  I never
                                  watch these so I'm making a rough
                                  comparison.
                                She was watching one of these program
                                  and chuckling because one of the
                                  judges, a very popular long time
                                  singer, was making his assessment of
                                  one the contestants and people were
                                  looking at him funny because they were
                                  not understanding all of what he was
                                  saying.  Now Oki, being from that same
                                  state as the judge, knew exactly what
                                  he was saying and wondered out-loud
                                  why he was using so much "South
                                  Jeolla" language (dialect) on a
                                  nationally broadcast network program.
                                South Jeolla is the southern most
                                  state on the west side of the
                                  peninsula and has a distinct dialect. 
                                  Hundreds of years ago it was even a
                                  separate country(kingdom) and
                                  developed it's own culture and
                                  dialect, and that still has a minor
                                  impact.  Through years of wars and
                                  conflict it eventually became part of
                                  the Joseon Empire on the way to being
                                  the Korean Empire, which lasted until
                                  the Japanese occupied the country from
                                  1910 until their defeat in 1945.
                                Historical dramas are very popular in
                                  South Korea and most seem to take
                                  place during the Joseon Era, and the
                                  dialect used in the dramas is "South
                                  Jeolla".  The reason I'm told is
                                  because "South Jeolla" most closely
                                  resembles the Joseon dialect.  Oki
                                  tells me that people actually study,
                                  or take "lessons", to learn to speak
                                  the "South Jeolla" dialect. 
                                  Ironically, I just read that English
                                  words make up more that 10% of the
                                  Korean language now.
                                That's my first hand impression of
                                  the status of dialects in the
                                  country.  I don't speak any Korean but
                                  the accent of those that come from the
                                  southeast port city of Busan is so
                                  distinct that even I can detect it
                                  when I hear it. 
                                So these are my reason in a nutshell
                                  😅(I know - TMI)
                                  why I feel that local dialects are not
                                  fading in Korea.
                                Steve
                                
                                  On
                                    01/14/2021 08:42, donnakasch
                                    (Redacted sender donnakasch for
                                    DMARC) wrote:
                                
                                
                                  
                                    Steve,
                                      I wonder if local dialects are
                                      fading there? They are in much of
                                      Italy, mainly, I would guess, as a
                                      result of TV and more travel and
                                      tourism. Sicily has kept its
                                      dialect for sure, but has always
                                      been considered separate. If
                                      you're from Sicily, you're not
                                      Italian... you're Sicilian. 
                                  
                                  
                                    Donna
                                  
                                  
                                      
                                  
                                  
                                      
                                  
                                  
                                      
                                  
                                  
                                    
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                                    From: Steve
                                        <sfgrob@xxxxxxxxxxx>
                                      
                                  
                                  
                                    Date:
                                        1/13/21 9:19 PM (GMT-05:00) 
                                  
                                  
                                    To: fhs-65@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                      
                                  
                                  
                                    Subject:
                                        [fhs-65] Re: Accents like the
                                        southerners? 
                                  
                                  
                                      
                                  
                                  Very much so.  Each region has a
                                    distinct accent and dialect, just
                                    like we do here.  And just like
                                    here, most people can tell where
                                    another person comes from by the
                                    accent and dialect. 
                                  Well, most people anyway.  When we
                                    go back people can never figure out
                                    where Oki comes from.  She grew up
                                    on a small rural farm in one of the
                                    southern most parts of the country,
                                    but went off to high school in the
                                    second largest city of the country,
                                    in the southwest corner and learned
                                    their way of speaking.  Add in
                                    nearly 50 years of speaking English
                                    daily, eroding her Korean skills,
                                    her speech often baffles folks.  She
                                    also has the ability to change her
                                    accent to match the region she is in
                                    further confusing folk.  We often
                                    get a good laugh when people say to
                                    her how great her Korean is for a
                                    foreigner.   They are always
                                    surprised to learn she is actually
                                    from Korea.
                                  More than you wanted to know so
                                    I'll stop here.
                                  Stay safe, Steve
                                  
                                    On
                                      01/13/2021 18:24, Michael Brose
                                      (Redacted sender no1knows47 for
                                      DMARC) wrote:
                                  
                                  
                                    
                                      
                                        Do they have southern
                                            accents like the southerners
                                            in America do?
                                      
                                      
                                          
                                      
                                      
                                        Mike
                                      
                                      
                                          
                                      
                                    
                                    
                                      
                                        
                                          On
                                              Wednesday, January 13,
                                              2021, 04:20:07 PM CST,
                                              Steve <sfgrob@xxxxxxxxxxx>
                                              wrote: 
                                        
                                        
                                            
                                        
                                        
                                            
                                        
                                        
                                          
                                            
                                              This
                                                  made me chuckle
                                                  because the
                                                  southerners on the
                                                  Korean peninsula
                                                  (South Koreans) do not
                                                  even have a word for
                                                  "cousin".  Cousins are
                                                  the same as brothers
                                                  and sisters in their
                                                  culture.  Guess they
                                                  really are southerners
                                                  .
                                              Steve
                                              
                                                
                                                  On
                                                      01/13/2021 15:41,
                                                      Jane Pawelkiewicz
                                                      (Redacted sender
                                                      janepawelkiewicz
                                                      for DMARC) wrote:
                                                
                                              
                                            
                                            
                                              
                                                Steve!!
                                                    Forget the charts!!
                                                    Maybe the
                                                    southerners have the
                                                    right idea, they are
                                                    all part of the
                                                    clan!! 😃😃 Jane
                                                
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                                                    On
                                                        Jan 13, 2021, at
                                                        1:12 PM, Steve 
<sfgrob@xxxxxxxxxxx>
                                                        wrote:
                                                  
                                                
                                                
                                                  
                                                    
                                                      
                                                  
                                                
                                              
                                              
                                                
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                                                Steve
                                                
                                                  On
                                                      01/13/2021 11:48,
                                                      Karen Hutmacher
                                                      wrote:
                                                
                                              
                                              
                                                I
                                                    have read that it
                                                    has become sort of
                                                    an "accepted"
                                                    definition to be
                                                    second cousins since
                                                    so many people
                                                    worded it like that
                                                    - but technically
                                                    she was my first
                                                    cousin once
                                                    removed.  In other
                                                    words, her dad and I
                                                    were first cousins
                                                    but then she was one
                                                    more generation
                                                    "removed" from me.  
                                                    She and my sons
                                                    would technically be
                                                    second cousins since
                                                    they are the same
                                                    generation - twice
                                                    removed from
                                                    grandparents'
                                                    generation (I
                                                    think). 
                                                    
                                                    Karen
                                                      
                                                
                                                  On
                                                      1/13/2021 10:02
                                                      AM, Jane
                                                      Pawelkiewicz
                                                      (Redacted sender
                                                      janepawelkiewicz
                                                      for DMARC) wrote:
                                                
                                              
                                            
                                            
                                              
                                                
                                                  Thank you
                                                      Karen, I’m sorry
                                                      to hear about your
                                                      cousin (can’t
                                                      figure out how
                                                      that works 2nd
                                                      cousin?) I just
                                                      hope that this
                                                      vaccine program
                                                      gets more
                                                      efficient so we
                                                      can look forward
                                                      to living again!
                                                      Jane
                                                   
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                                                    From: Karen
                                                          Hutmacher
                                                        Sent: Sunday,
                                                        January 10, 2021
                                                        7:26 PM
                                                        To: fhs-65@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                                        Subject: [fhs-65]
                                                        Re: Long Wait
                                                  
                                                   
                                                  Jane, I'm
                                                      sorry for what
                                                      your cousin's wife
                                                      has had to go
                                                      through - and 
                                                  will
                                                      continue to - but
                                                      good news that she
                                                      is progressing.  
                                                      I just lost 
                                                  a
                                                      relative to COVID
                                                      at age 61 - her
                                                      dad was my first
                                                      cousin.   Scary 
                                                  scary
                                                      thing...
                                                   
                                                  Karen
                                                   
                                                   
                                                   
                                                  On
                                                      1/10/2021 4:02 PM,
                                                      Jane Pawelkiewicz
                                                      (Redacted sender 
                                                  janepawelkiewicz
                                                      for DMARC) wrote:
                                                  >
                                                      Sounds like it
                                                      will be a long
                                                      wait for a vaccine
                                                      for our age group
                                                      everywhere.
                                                      According to our
                                                      state “Crush
                                                      Covid”, website
                                                      this week medical
                                                      staff, hospital
                                                      workers, first
                                                      responders,
                                                      prisoners &
                                                      staff, clinic
                                                      staff, nursing
                                                      home residents
                                                      & staffs &
                                                      the city of
                                                      Central Falls
                                                      residents are
                                                      being done! We
                                                      need another
                                                      manufacturer to
                                                      get approval.
                                                      There is a
                                                      shortage
                                                      everywhere. Surely
                                                      there is some
                                                      company willing to
                                                      make syringes too!
                                                      I was surprised
                                                      that one city gets
                                                      to be first, but
                                                      their positivity
                                                      rate is 30%! I’ll
                                                      be pissed I’d i
                                                      find out it’s
                                                      because they
                                                      weren’t following
                                                      the rules!!
                                                  >  
                                                  > 75
                                                      and up is the next
                                                      group. CVS &
                                                      Walgreens are
                                                      gearing up to do
                                                      more than just
                                                      nursing homes so I
                                                      hope that means
                                                      they’ll do an
                                                      appointment system
                                                      like they are
                                                      doing for testing
                                                      & have done
                                                      for flu shots.
                                                  >  
                                                  > My
                                                      cousin’s wife in
                                                      NE has been in ICU
                                                      on a vent for 5
                                                      weeks with Covid.
                                                      Good news she came
                                                      off the ventilator
                                                      yesterday! She had
                                                      a tracheotomy
                                                      & has a long
                                                      way to go, but
                                                      good news. The
                                                      virus attacked her
                                                      bowel & has an
                                                      illeostomy.  Poor
                                                      thing. She’s 71.
                                                  >  
                                                  > Stay
                                                      well everyone
                                                      & be patient!
                                                      Jane
                                                  >  
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