[fenrir-screenreader] Re: Comma comma comma - Was - Re: Speech overlaps

  • From: chrys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: fenrir-screenreader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 10:23:15 +0100

Howdy Emrah,

thanks :). I try to help where i can.
And i know fenrir could be a complex software. its very flexible but it needs a while to understand all its posibilitys. but if you understand it could be a perfect friend for almost any situation cause by its scripting cababilitys.

about your speech overlapping issue.
you could try this to fix it up:
change the setting from
interruptOnKeyPress=False
to
interruptOnKeyPress=True
this will make fenrir interrupt on any keypress. maybe you get an situation where fenrir could not properly autodetect to interrupt the speech (so we need to check for keyboart input as well).
i ll set this as default since it could make more sense.

oh Amsterdam is fun :). beautifull city. and not so far away from germany ;).

where you from? seems you do a lot of traveling.

cheers chrys
Zitat von E <eml@xxxxxx>:

Hola Chrys,
I hope the mailing list is well indexed in search engines and that your wonderful efforts in educating me on Fenrir will help others as well.
I will look into the punctuation settings and adapt as needed.

Sorry for the late response, have been dealing with missed connections and airport drama.

Sending the list some love from Amsterdam!

Emrah

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 01:36:47PM +0100, chrys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Howdy,

> Looks like that worked, although my exclamation point now says Bang!
this is how exclamation point was translated by other users. By default it
uses the "default" punctuation names see here (settings.conf):
punctuationProfile=default

this refers (when running fenrir from git without installation) to
<gitroot>/config/punctuation/default.conf
or (after installation on local filesystem)
/etc/fenrirscreenreader/config/punctuation/default.conf

you can also specify a full path to punctuationProfile where your
punctuation is placed (to have an editable copy what is not overwritten
after update) like this:
punctuationProfile=/home/chrys/customFenrirConfig/chrys.conf

you will find 3 sections in that file
- [punctDict] contains the punctuation names like bang space or dash
- [customDict] contains your personal substitutions (by default its empty)
- [emoticonDict] contains names for emoticons like :) is smile

the file fomrat looks quite strange (because its strange column sepearator -
i wanted to be sure taht the separator does not collideing with an
substitution) but is very simple
the column separator is :===:
!:===:bang
replaces ! with bang

just all this as explaination. you see fenrir could be very flexible and
configurable. at least if you know how things are working lol.
i hope it helps and you'll  enjoy my little beast ;)

> I hope what you had to drink was good!
hehe german beer is very tasty ;). special here in baravia its a kind of
basic foods *smile*.

> I apologize for not changing the subject of the message for my new
> questions. I recently changed my .muttrc and did not adjust to the new
> config.
ahh, no problem at all.

cheers chrys

Zitat von E <eml@xxxxxx>:

> You are fabulous!
> Looks like that worked, although my exclamation point now says Bang!
> I hope what you had to drink was good!
> I apologize for not changing the subject of the message for my new
> questions. I recently changed my .muttrc and did not adjust to the new
> config.
>
> Best,
> Emrah
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 12:17:07PM +0100, chrys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > Howdy,
> >
> > sorry for late answer. hat a "long" weekend resulted in some hangover (lol).
> >
> > 1. i ll take a look at your demo today in the evening after my work. i heard
> > multible times by this from users but could never reproduce it by myself ( i
> > also wonder how it culd happen since fenrir has no asyc progress here) but
> > we will figure it for sure.
> > 2. about the comma stuff, this is caused by an setting what creates a
> > "pause" in espeak. voxin seems not to handle this in the same way. you can
> > turn this off by switch the following settings:
> >
> > respectPunctuationPause=True
> > newLinePause=True
> >
> > to
> > respectPunctuationPause=False
> > newLinePause=False
> >
> > the first one adds an comma after . ? and ! what results to have a short
> > break in espeak
> > the second one adds an comma at the end of each line. what results in having
> > a short break after each line.
> >
> > this may fix your issue.
> > maybe we can fix it up if you find something what creates a break in voxin (
> > i dont have it here and i do not now ery much about it).
> >
> > since it seems not to work in all TTS i will switch it to false by default.
> >
> > cheers chrys
> >
> > Zitat von E <eml@xxxxxx>:
> >
> > > Hello list,
> > >
> > > An additional question: I keep hearing comma comma comma for new lines.
> > > Example: when I switch to a new TTY that contains a login prompt with
> > > most of the screen empty, I hear hostname Login comma comma comma comma
> > > comma.
> > > I assume this is the TTY size breaking lines and Fenrir perceives it the
> > > best it can.
> > > Therefore, anyone of you have had experience with this issue?
> > > Broken into two parts, one part would be how to avoid the comma comma
> > > comma phenomenon, and the other to resize my terminal to fit more
> > > content, more collumns and rows into my screen.
> > >
> > > Any hints would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > E
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