[etni] Re: about E- and oral exams (and C)
- From: Yisrael and Batya Medad <ybmedad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: sarag@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ETNI <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 09:59:21 +0200
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The answer was "obvious" if I remember correctly. I did oral testing for
a few kids who didn't realize that it was more a "thinking" question. None
of my students (whom I tested) got it right. The students also had trouble
in general with the text. It was hard to relate to. It took me a bit to
figure out what was wanted. If I had been a stressed out student, I never
would have gotten it.
Batya
At 13:35 19/05/04 +0200, sarag wrote:
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>I'm one of the people not getting ETNI mail, so I read it on the web and
>can't really reply to people's emails.
>But I have a question/comment on the oral exam for E that I haven't seen
>anyone ask.
>
>(btw - I think the *general* tone of the unseen text was sentimental. "For
>over 4 centuries..". There are some humorous parts - "I chew them. I eat
>them." - but I don't think the whole article was written in a humorous tone.
>But in as much as that question was taken off the oral exam, I'm happy I
>don't have to decide. )
>
>Question 2 : "Pencil fans believe that the advantages mentioned in lines
>6-10 are.........." was very confusiong. All (I think) of our oral testees,
>and a large part of the regular test kids, answered this by giving a list of
>the advantages. OK, they should understand that they have to describe the
>advantages, and not list them. BUT - the problem as I see it is that if
>a kid misses this question in a written test, 10 points are taken off. In
>the oral LD test, it is worth 10/38 = 26 points! Over a quarter of the test!
>As the kids would say, "ze lo fair!".
>
>When it is decided what questions to take off for the oral LD exam, maybe
>there should be some reorganizing of the points, so the hardest questions
>are worth a little less?
>
>Another comment - I think the questions in E were very hard (harder than
>the text) and am not sure how my 4 pointers will be able to deal with them
>next year.
>
>And last - in C the text and questions were very fair- my class (4 points)
>liked the graphc organizer (chart) . (I hope their grades will be as good as
>they think - they don't always remember exactly what they wrote.)
>
>I know Judy and everyone in the "pikuach" (and all of us teachers!) worked
>very hard to get to the first full bagrut of the modules. And in general it
>want off without too many "bugs". SO - "kol hakavod" to everyone - and may
>next year be even better!
> sara g
>
>sara g in israel
>sarag@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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