**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** Greetings, all! Lev makes some good points, but he overlooked the fact that the Ministry of Education still sends its audio exams as tapes rather than CDs. This means that working with kids using CDs might align with their current technological level, but it does not prepare them for the technological step backwards the Ministry requires in the Bagrut. Working with linear tapes (rather than random-access CDs) takes more practice - perhaps a lot more practice for dyslexics who have problems putting items in order. All this means that either: 1. the Ministry of Education should catch up with the rest of the world and start recording the Bagrut on CDs, or 2. we have to force kids to buy and practice using walkmans (walkmen?) in order to do well in the Bagrut. I'll leave it to you all to draw the conclusions. Jimmy (The Tape King of Har V'Gai School) From: "lev" <lev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [etni] Re: recordings Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:02:11 +0200 A controversial issue. On the one hand, most of us would probably prefer a reusable medium, and = in this sense, tapes are better. On the other hand, almost no-one owns a walkman anymore - most kids use portable CD players (diskman), many are switching for MP3 players (iPod etc). My own experience: it is easier to convince them to bring a diskman than = a walkman. Hence, I suggest using a regular computer + a microphone (I bought a = clip-on mike at Office Depot for NIS 12 - works fine) to create .wav files which = can then be copied onto an audio CD. The same vendor - OfficeDepot - carried = a BenQ CD burner (NIS 200), and blank CD-Rs go for 1.68 when bought in = packs of 100. There are several freeware audio editors that can be downloaded, are = easy to use and produce good quality recordings. If there is enough interest I = will create a tutorial on using CD burners and put it on our site. I have used this arrangment for my LD students at the college for over = two years; very convenient. If you keep your files, you can also encode them = as MP3 - then kids can downlaod them of the school site as listening comprehension drills, as soon as you decide you won't be using these materials for testing. MP3 encoders are freeware as well. Disclaimer:=20 1. I have no vested interest in OfficeDepot. :)=20 2. Any resemblance between the so-called OfficeDepot in this message and = the real OfficeDepot stores is purely coincidental. Lev _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx #####