**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** Hi Patricia and etniers Yes, I was referring to Ladybird. (but somehow it came out wrong!). I used the first sets which used the look and see method with great success. I never used to phonics, but did use some of the writing books. And I was glad to see at ETAI that they are still available, although it did take some searching through the catelog. The fact that the series uses both methods must say something about being fanatic about one or the other. Galia Patricia wrote: The books I think you are refering to are from the British series of Ladybird books. If so, they are definitely not built on the global or whole word principle - look-and-see words only appear in the very first books and there are about twelve levels. Each level has a set of three books, one of which teaches phonics and writing. I think the books are excellent and I have used them to teach reading to non-native children with great success. The kids don't seem to notice the boredom of the stilted stories. Patricia ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx #####