[etni] Re: From a checker who knows
- From: "sara g " <saragabai@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "ETNI list" <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:36:23 +0300
Barry,
Thanks for the explanation.
i have 2 comments on this -
1) There is almost no hope that the average 4 point student is going to get
the second answer completely correct. (in my opinion, maybe I am wrong .
maybe teaching the HOTS will help this?) So we could say that the test is
unfair.
2) BUT - there is no problem with a 4 pointer getting 60 or even 50 in E. We
teach them and try to help them get higher grades, of course. But if they
can get 80 in E they should be in 5 points.
If they got a high grade in C and in the oral, a decent grade in D, did
their project, lit. and extensive reading (so their school grades are all
right) - they can fail the unseen in E and still get a respectable final 4
point bagrut grade.
In the old bagrut , we never knew if they failed one of the unseens.
this is one of the main problems with the tzvira. we always have 5 point
kids who are used to getting 80s and 90s in everything, and in G tests in
class get 60 or 70 - who are sure they need to go down to 4 points. and we
work hard convincing them to stay in 5 points. (and of cours working on the
writing - so they get at least 30 points there.)
on the other hand - i have seen weak 4 pointers (or strong 3 pointers -
whatever you want to call them ) who did C and D in the winter of 12th
grade, and were overjoyed when their teacher told them they could go on to
do E in the summer.
sara g
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Barry wote:
There are two problems with the flowchart of the Moed Alef E exam. Non
Bagrut teachers, skip this please:
ONE: Many kids did not give enough weight to item 2 of the
flowchart: "*Holt is not satisfied*." So they did not look for the cause (
*'Many students answered incorrectly'*), and they blindly rushed in to give
some other completion to the first item (*'The numbers on the screen show
that..").* This kind of error should be fairly easy to prevent.
TWO But the final item ( HE...) is misleading. The answer
that so many pupils wrote, "*He knows whether to go back over material he's
already covered*" gets a zero grade. But isn't that what the text says:
"If the results show otherwise [i.e. the students answered incorrectly]
...at least I know whether to go back over material i've already covered or
to move on." lines 16-18.
The exam is asking for a clear cut cause and effect: The exminee must
answer the unwritten question 'What does Holt *do*,' not what he *knows* * *
he* *should do . OK.. But lets face it folks: How many of us would have
allowed that answer if we were marking the exam without the official key?
How many of us may have written this answer ourselves if we took this exam?
I saw hundreds of exams where pupils lost up to 16 points on these errors.
This is blatantly unfair. The 'new bagrut' is now in its fourth year; the
curriculum has been around for a decade and a half.
But what percentage of our pupils is really coming into the exam trained in
this kind of semantic analysis? What percentage of our teachers has the
knowledge or the time to teach it?
Barry S
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